Quantum Leaping Pt. 2

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to the Healer's Corner podcast with your hosts, Melissa Wiles and Maria Cerna. [00:00:16] Speaker B: We have wrangled Larry back for another round on the. The quantum leaping. And I still am not confident that we're still going to get all of this topic out on a part two tonight because it is such a big topic. [00:00:32] Speaker A: It's a huge topic. And I, I figured the questions, I just, I said, well, if you pick one or two of them, that's fine. [00:00:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Well, did either one of you have a place that you wanted to get started? I know we have our list of talking points, but, like, is there a real good starting point to get into this topic? [00:00:59] Speaker C: Well, I think we should start with the parallel lives and the way the parallel lives play into the quantum. The quantum theory and Quantum leapy. I know we talked about it last in the last episode, and I think it got a little bit confusing for many people, and it got pretty deep. So I, I looked up. I want to go over the spiritual definition of the parallel lives, and then I want to give an example that I think should clear it up for most people. So, in spiritual belief systems, parallel lives refer to the concept of simultaneous alternative life paths or realities existing concurrently in one's own life. They each vibrate at a different frequency or wavelength. These experiences are typically separate physical universes, but represent different versions of the soul's journey or different timelines that can offer lessons, wisdom, and healing for the current life, enriching the soul's overall growth and understanding. Now, in a more clearer or what I think is more clear, you'll be the judge of it. In our life, we make a series of choices, okay? Whether we're going to get married or we're going to get divorced, whether we're going to stay in a current job or we're going to move to a new job, whether we want to drive to the store or we want to walk, we're constantly making choices. Creates a new possibility, and it starts running this new possibility in the background. Once the person living that life makes the choice, that possibility then becomes their reality and they begin walking and living that timeline. While that's going on, all those other possibilities are still moving forward and still progressing as a. As an alternative life or your parallel life. So based on that, we have many, maybe hundreds of significant choices we make that create parallel lives that are running concurrently with the life we're living right now with the quantum leaping. If we need to tap into one of those what if situations, what if I drove to the store rather than walking to the store. We could leap to that life and experience what that path would have looked like. And it's simply, the leap really simply is changing your vibration, which is changing your thought and creating a new vibrational or new wavelength that matches with that other possibility. I liken it to changing radio stations. If, if you're on WMMS and you want to go to wgar, you change your frequency. Parallel lines is, is much of the same thing and we could get a little bit deeper into how to change those frequencies. But I think in a nutshell, that kind of sums it up. What do you think, Maria? [00:04:43] Speaker A: One frequency does not affect the other frequency. So the power lies. Even though I make a choice to go to the store and in another, in another parallel life, that person didn't make that choice. It does not interfere with that person's choice. [00:05:03] Speaker C: Correct? [00:05:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:05] Speaker C: Yeah. They're completely independent. They run completely independent of each other. There's, there's a lot of times where we'll make, we'll make choices in our life and we often wonder, well, what if I chose something else? Most people don't understand that they could actually quantum leap to that what if and see what that life would look like had they made a different choice. If they marry, if they married this other person rather than going with the current partner, if they left the job rather than staying at it, what would their life path have turned into? And it's not there to, it's not there to say that you were wrong or you were right in your choice. It's there to help you heal and grow. As to every action, every decision we make has the yin and the Yang effect. There's, everything we choose to do has a good and it has a bad. And by, by leaping to the what ifs, it gives us that ability to know what the options would have been. And in many, in many cases, we could alter this life to get back in line. Not now. Now the parallel lives will never bisect and come together. But we can bring back the qualities of a parallel life back into the present life and join, alter this life by bringing back those qualities with, with us. I've heard, I've heard stories about people going and learning how, you know, going to one life and, and coming back and knowing how to play the piano. And they've never taken piano lessons. Mathematicians who have couldn't barely add two plus two came back and they were, they were math whizzes, you know, so there's, there's things we can learn and grow from and bring back with us. But it's, it's. It's also a learned process. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yes, it is. You cannot start as a beginner and expecting that you are going to go to that frequency of, oh, I want a frequency living in Paris. And you may have a paralife living in Paris, but it's not like it's going to happen immediately just because you jump into that frequency, jump into that parive. It does it. There's also a process that, that needs to take place. [00:07:49] Speaker C: Correct? Yeah. And, you know, to me, the parallel lives are more like in. They're kind of like an Akashic records, but more in like the current life situation. Meaning it would be like going to an encyclopedia and doing a research and saying, okay, what is this? How does this work? Getting the information and then bringing it back to your current position and using that information to alter the path you're on. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Now, I don't know you guys wanted to get into because I'm reading through our notes and, you know, kind of going like, you can't start as a beginner and jumping to like expert mode in this traveling, if you will, to this parallel life. I see some notes about the multiverse bridge. Like, what exactly is that? And is that something that is being used in to get to these parallel lives? [00:08:50] Speaker C: You want to take that, Maria? [00:08:52] Speaker A: Yeah. The multi. Multiverse bridge is, is going. Is, has. Is a technique that you use. And the first one would be a meditation technique, but you can also do it through self hypnosis if you know how to do self hypnosis. Are also going to a trained hypnotherapist. Is bridging is. Is doing a. You will be guided to go through that bridge to jump into another frequency of your alternate self. And you might want to find like, say I want to find an alternate self because the universe is so vast and it's not just this galaxy, it's other galaxy. So I want to find an ultimate self that has healed themselves from chronic headaches. So I can use the bridge is just a way for you to go into that frequency to jump into that. That frequency. So you could do it through meditation. And like I said, it's not something that you can just say, I'm gonna do it, and then, you know, expect it to happen instantly. Just like any kind of healing tool, it doesn't happen instantly. There is a process. [00:10:23] Speaker B: How does that meet over with the science aspect of it? [00:10:27] Speaker A: The quantum scientists, they're doing research on this that they can, you know, they have all these, I don't even know what they call it, they have these things on the athletes. So say the athlete is, is there and they, they're into a meditative state. There's a race coming up that they. They're a marathon racer, dude. There's a race coming up. So this person is actually, they're sitting and they tap into that frequency of actually running the race, winning the race. So you kind of jump into that frequency. You went into that frequency. Do you agree, Larry? [00:11:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And I think, if I understand the question correctly, I think what we're talking about is, is a direct, and I'll use the word parallel to what science is dictating. Because what science dictates what the quantum physics is and how parallel lives play into it. They also talk about how to get there. What we're talking about is how to get there. And the bridge is just the avenue. Whether it be self, self guided, which is, you know, you're walking across the bridge yourself through meditation or you're being guided through, you know, a hypnotherapist or somebody that's trained in it to help guide you across the bridge. I would strongly advise anybody that does this to go to a trained person first and learn the right ways of doing it. You don't want a quantum leap just arbitrarily. You don't know where you're going to go, what you're going to get. And it could really mess up your current situation. You could bring back information that you weren't ready for if you're not ready. If you just quantum leap and you end up in an alternate reality that's. That is very deep and personal and you're not ready to experience that, it could really alter where you are right now. And you'll make, you'll make choices that aren't in your best interest just to stay away from what you feel is coming. So that's why I say it's. It's best to be guided. It's best to learn. It's best to take baby steps. It's just like manifestation. I'm teaching a class on manifestation. And I always tell my group, we start off small. You start off by getting the red lights to turn green before you get there. Manifesting a parking lot space to. At a mall or shopping center before you get there. And then we build from there. We don't want to start manifesting a million dollars when we don't even know how to manifest it. We want to start off small and build up. It's called the ladder effect. You take one step At a time, quantum leaping is even more. More important to do the ladder effect and start out small. [00:13:34] Speaker B: This one was really interesting. Kind of reading over notes, getting ready. The self in the multiverse. If there's a million different versions of us out there, which. Where's the constant? [00:13:45] Speaker C: The oversoul. That's your. That's your spirit. Your. Your. Your ultimate spirit power is called the oversoul. And it. It kind of controls all of the lives, and it keeps all the lives parallel but separate. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Mm. [00:14:03] Speaker C: That's our pure essence. That's. Many people call their. Your higher self. In the quantum field, it's referred to as the oversoul. [00:14:13] Speaker B: So is the consciousness moving into the new reality when the jumps are happening? So if the oversoul is constant and a piece of that oversoul is moving over, learning something new, experiencing something in a different parallel life, is it like the consciousness bringing over, or is it like the whole reality kind of shifting slightly? [00:14:39] Speaker C: Every. Everything's moving. Everything's shifting at the same time. It's. Okay. So the oversoul is, if you will, sitting in a room. This just metaphorically sitting in a room, watching, you know, 30 different monitors of what's going on. Okay. You, in your current reality, are one person in one monitor monitoring just what that one monitor is showing you. Does that make sense? [00:15:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:12] Speaker C: But while we're watching that one monitor, everything else is going on around us and all the other monitors. Nothing ever stops. Everything is constantly moving and constantly progressing. [00:15:26] Speaker B: So now the mental image of me and my little monitor wants to jump three monitors to the left to go learn something. [00:15:34] Speaker C: Yep. [00:15:36] Speaker B: So that little world in my monitor kind of shifts three monitors over and kind of absorbs that experience and then comes back to my original monitor. [00:15:47] Speaker C: Not your monitor. Your. Your spirit energy would jump over. Your monitor still running. Your monitor still there running. You're jumping over three. Three monitors over, gathering the information you need, bringing it back to your monitor. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Okay? [00:16:03] Speaker C: So your. Your life never gets paused. [00:16:06] Speaker B: Okay, so not even a gone fishing sign. It's. It's literally like. [00:16:11] Speaker C: No, no, it's. It's because usually when you're. When you're doing this, you're in a meditative state. Your life is still moving around you. You know, you're. You're out and you're meditating and you're focusing on whatever you're focusing on, but your life is still happening around you. Same thing. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Okay, like, take when. When we go to sleep at night. Okay. When you get up in the morning, you. I don't Know if it ever happened to anyone, but it happened to me numerous times. I get up in the morning and I feel so out of place. I don't know where I am. It, I, I get up and I have to really, like, where am I? Part of my soul left my body and went into the spirit world. The other part kept my body going. It kept them like, like Larry said, it kept the monitor going. Your life never stops, you know, so when whatever I went out there in the spirit world to do, whether I was helping someone or. Because we all agreed also, this might be a little bit big, but we also agreed to do spiritual work, even though we are learning in the earth planes. So then, you know, when it's time for the bot, when it's time for, you know, for me to get up, my soul, my soul comes back whole. And it may have been something that I did really, I was really focused on, I was really intended to complete that. I come back too fast or I come back like I, I, I wasn't done, I wasn't finished. So you have that moment of being disoriented. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:01] Speaker B: That's kind of a good segue into the healing aspect because we didn't really get in pretty deep in the healing part of, you know, using quantum leaping for healing. And you know, one of the first know things that we were thinking about was the targeting trauma. And you know, very like have you used even in, in guided states, helping one of the clients, like quantum jumping or leaping, you know, into healing a situation and how did you know what parallel life to get that information that was needed for the healing? [00:18:43] Speaker C: When, when I do, when I do trauma work, a lot of times I'll, I'll take the adult back to the time or the child where the trauma occurred and we're able to go back as the adult, as we are today, go back and talk to the child and let the child know everything's going to be okay. And you start healing from that, from that perspective, knowing because we're going back in time now, we've, we know where we are. We know that we came out of this. We still may have some trauma bonds in that. But by, by going back and healing, at least this is my thought. I'm curious to know what Maria thinks about it. But my thought is when we go back into that childlike moment where the trauma actually occurred, we can lessen those bonds, start learning the lesson and bring that child with us back into the present time and begin that healing of the two of the past. And that's been very successful for me, helping people with their trauma bonds. What do you think, Maria? [00:19:58] Speaker A: I use it as a timeline, and it's the same thing. I, I have done this with one person. It was actually really great. I brought them back to their childhood, but I am not having them experience any of the, the emotions. They're observing it. I have them with me. I walk them through it, and they're observing it. And before we leave there, we actually give that little child, that inner child a lot of love and assure that child that you are okay. Someone is always here who cares about you. So it goes. I do it in a timeline frame. I have trained. One of the classes that I was trained with is they talked about timelines. So I do it as a timeline. I look at a timeline. You know, I, I first asked the question, when, when did this first appear? When did this happen? So it takes me back and sometimes it may not be in this life, it may be another life. That's where they show me exactly a timeline where they were going back. And I don't want my client to experience the emotional. I don't want them to do that. They know it's them. I want them to, you know, see them acknowledge that it happened. Because first of all, some people, it's during denial mode because it's just too traumatic. So they not, you know, to acknowledge it and then to give that, you know, whether it's a child, I have had one that was an adult. Not in this time, it was in another life. And I, you know, just assure them that they are okay. And if it's a past life, I also want to separate the two. So who. I said, and I, before I bring them back, I said, who you were before is no longer who you are now. But please understand, you are loved, you are cared for. You matter. [00:22:18] Speaker C: Yes, no, I, I agree with you because. And when you talk timeline, I think we're talking the exact same thing. And the, what you're talking about is present life regressions and past life regressions. And it's important to understand this is where it gets a little bit cloudy, because in the quantum world, the past is running parallel with the present and the future. So when we do a past life regression, we're actually quantum leaping into a past parallel, which is happening at the exact same time as the current parallel. Because. Because in a quantum field, there is, there's no space or time. Everything, everything bends and everything can morph into what our reality is. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Now, have either one of you had to take a client not just back to childhood. Maybe the healing information that was needed was either past life or life in another dimension, different planet, different galaxy. [00:23:33] Speaker C: I've never experienced that. Um, I think Maria has. I think she told me a story about that. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was. And it was, it was really unusual because it was actually a client that we, she came in for a past life regression, basically what she did. And it went, we went back and then I was giving notice from her guys that they wanted to take her back to two more lives. And there was a pattern. And she also has that pattern in this life. And each time we went back to take a look at it, we gave a lot of love to that individual who she was. But I also separated the lives. I had to separate the lives. [00:24:22] Speaker B: It's always interesting, like, at least to me in this topic, like what information and knowledge from different, like realms, planets, you know, that we as a species have not acquired yet. And are we allowed to bring that back in a quantum leap? And if so, does that help spur on a chain reaction of helping heal others? Because now you're able to bring that, you know that, that whole ripple in the pond. So that, that's probably more of like my interest in this whole topic is like, ooh, what can we bring back from other place outside of our little human existence here on this current Earth that will help spur and help other people? [00:25:10] Speaker C: And I think, I think that's very possible, but I also think that's going to be controlled by the oversoul, because our oversoul is going to make sure that whatever the mission was of this existence and everything that we're experiencing, that we don't do anything that's going to alter us from changing that be the original plan. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Damn the original booklet. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Have either one of you had a client in helping in the quantum leak that kind of resisted the healing, that did not want to step into that, that healed self? [00:25:48] Speaker C: Oh yeah, yeah. I've, I've, I've had clients that, that didn't want to go back or didn't want to. And at that point there's. As for what I do, I just try to help them in the current and help them through it through many different avenues. Journaling and, and meditation. But some people just don't want, and they don't want to go back. They don't want it, they're afraid of it. And until they, until they get to the point where they're ready to face it, it's not my job to force it. I. And, and, and, and as a Hypnotist. I can't force somebody to be hypnotized. They have to want it. I'm just a guide. So if they re, you know, I've taken people into trance and they're nice and deep and all of a sudden we start going down that path and all of a sudden their eyes open, they're like, nope, not ready. You know, so it's, they have to want it and they have to be ready for it. That's been my experience. [00:26:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I have the same experience. And it's not just hypnosis. Guiding someone is also when I'm doing energy work I can do, I can spend a whole entire day with them. But if they're not ready to release that emotion or if they don't want to feel all the emotion all over again, and I tell them, if the energy gets too much, just raise your hand and I will stop. So it comes back to what is best for the client. If they're ready for it, then fine, we'll go, we'll go all the way through however it's going to take, however long it's going to be. But if they're not ready for it, maybe they don't want to go through the emotion. Maybe they have not come to terms and they're in the denial and I can't, I can't force them. I will not force them. [00:27:52] Speaker C: And some people aren't ready to forgive and move past them. Some people want to still, they're still stuck in the anger of the grief and they, they're, they're just not ready to move past it. And, and there's nothing we could do to force somebody. When I deal with grief counseling, I, you know, I can only move somebody as fast as they're ready to move. There's nothing I can do to, to move them along quicker. There's things I could do to help them to progress and get ready, but they have to do the work and they have to be prepared for what's coming. So I, you know, when we're talking about parallel lives, I, I just, it just hit me about one of my parallel lives that I experienced and it, it, I, I detailed it in my book and it's, it's, it was my near death experience when I was, when I was in a car accident and I, I expired and I got to meet my spirit guide and we were sitting in, in a park on a bench and we were talking and she gave me the choice to come back or to stay on the other side. And I wanted to Stay on the other side because it was so beautiful. But she said, before you make that choice, you have to watch the movie. And all of a sudden in midair, a movie showed of what the existence of this life would be without me in it. And how it would affect my, my brother, my sister, my mother and everybody that's connected to me. How it would cancel out my children, how it would alter all these other realities by me choosing to stay there. And that changed my, my decision. And I decided to come back because I, all those things were important to me. So that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a form of quantum leaping to the future to see what, what this choice is going to make and how it's, how is it going to alter our life. [00:30:03] Speaker B: So it is the process of really embodying the healed self, rather just, you know, imagining it embodying the healed self. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Is when you do that leap into an altered state of you. We double ganger. And that double gang are like I say, what I brought up is the chronic headaches. So that double Granger that alters self of me is not experiencing that all at all. I, I connect with the energy of it. I connect with the energy I observe. And I am, I'm at, to the point where I do talk to my double ganger. They recognize me. I recognize them, you know, and I ask for permission because they're having a separate life. They're having a separate lesson, separate experience. I don't want to interfere with them too. I have, I have to respect that too. So I would, I would, I a hands on person. I would be in, I will be sitting down and I will have a conversation. You know, what did you do? How did you. I have, I'm experiencing the chronic headaches. You're not experiencing it. What did you do? So that's how I approach this. I have done it before. I have a, I have actually a sacred place where there's a bench and I go there and have conversation with my alternate self. But sometimes I also observe it. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Now the question I would have for like say that physical type of ailment versus emotional trauma, mental trauma, you know, physical. What if just in this lifeline you are genetically predisposed, Are you then rewriting your DNA because just because you go and visit a version of yourself that is not experiencing the headaches, maybe they are genetically different than you and that's why they don't have it. So how would you then bring that back? If it is a literal genetic wiring of the human body, not just, you know, I've learned to control my anxiety better, I have learned to eat better, I've balanced electrolytes. Like, how does that play in to where you would almost have to literally rewrite your DNA for that type of healing? [00:32:30] Speaker A: The DNA, how I was taught with energy. Everything starts with energy before it goes into the body. So as I'm having conversation with my alter self, I'm actually looking into the energy. I know a lot of people who are not trained for energy work that's a little bit trickier to, you know, to alter. When you alter your energy field, when you alter the energy, you alter the material. And just like hypnosis, I don't know if this is how you feel, Larry, but just like hypnosis, when you alter, if you tweak one little thing in the, in the subconscious, the body, the body will follow. [00:33:23] Speaker C: It's. Yeah, it's the domino effect. Yeah, it's, it's just by, by altering one thought strain everything else that's connected. That strain changes it. It has to, it can't. When you, when you alter anything, the outcome has to be different. I mean, you can't, I mean, in, in, on any level, you can't take something and alter what it is and end up with the exact same thing you started. It has, it has to change either for the better or for the worse. So I can't, I can't speak to the energy work because that's not one of my strong fortes. But that's where Maria comes into that. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Now. So clearly the shift of no longer having, you know, headaches. Right. Would be an evidence of having that successful shift in healing. But are there other, like, takeaways that would be obvious, like, okay, this shift was successful and here is the change without maybe having to wait weeks, months, years to know that you had a successful leap and that you have that, that shift brought back. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Well, just like any army, it's the same, it's the same thing when, when an energy worker works on, well, I can't speak for other type of energy work, but panic healing, I go and remove anything that doesn't serve you. So I altered something. So that shift is going to happen. I altered it, I took it out, I removed it. So it is going to happen. You know, and also it goes according to the person's belief that also is it, it plays a role in it. You know, I can have a skeptic come in, show me what you, what, what you can do. Now, I, that shift is going to Happen. It might happen a little bit longer in my hat. Like one person who's really like, okay, I want to do this. I believe in this. That shift will happen quicker than the person who's skeptic, but the shift is going to happen. [00:35:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And I can, you know, piggybacking on that. I had, I had a client that had severe back pain from a car accident. And not wanting to alter the pain, we started talking about the accident. I'm a big proponent of owning your trauma, even if it's 1% or half a percent. I don't believe that you could fix a problem unless you own something. You made a decision. You have to own an element of it, because if you don't own it, the power lives with someone else. But if you could find one little morsel that you can own just making the decision to be somewhere in her case, making the decision, making to drive that night when she wasn't supposed to be out and ended up in a car accident. When I was able to get her to, to take that and forgive herself for making that decision, she started feeling better emotionally. But then about a month later, she told me that her back pain started diminishing. And so I kind of attribute that a little bit to. I'm not saying I heal the back pain, but there's. I feel that there's. A lot of times our pain is connected to situations, thoughts, realities, and we have to own those or own a portion of it so we can change it. You can't change that which you don't acknowledge. You can't change that which you don't own. If, if you're going to be a victim and blame everyone else or someone else for where you are, you're never going to get out of that rut. You've got to own something. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I truly believe in that also. It makes a lot of sense because we are creative beings. We are more powerful than anything in this world. [00:37:51] Speaker B: I, I think part of, like Larry, your, your client. Now, mind you, I'm not a medical professional. I just deep dive into a lot of physical stuff because of my own, you know, and understanding and learning how stress causes inflammation, which will lead to pain in the body. That her kind of understanding in, like, taking that, I bet, took a big burden and stress off of her to where then the body starts relaxing. And maybe that's part of. And I, again, I'm not diagnosing anything, but I mean, it makes sense, you know, to finally go there, accept it, and go, oh, okay, and not have that hanging over, you know, her head anymore and worrying about it and why and what if and I shoulda, woulda, coulda and why didn't I? And you know, just to remove that off the table, I'm sure it had a profound reasoning. And then that stress is gone, the inflammation's going down, you know. Yeah, there is so much stuff that, that's tied into the, the mental and the, and the physical, you know, and then I'm also kind of thinking back to my previous question about like, we are written this way sometimes and can you really change it? Because I know, like our shaman teacher, he's like, sometimes there are just things in life that, that is the lesson to learn. And part of that lesson is learning how to deal with it to help elevate you. So, you know, maybe you will never get rid of your psoriasis this time around, but how do you learn to live with it? How do you accept and how do you, you know, thou walk with grace of what you are learning in dealing with that physical ailment this time around? So that's why I'm like, hey, Maria, about these headaches. And if you can't, if you can't literally this time around, you know, rewrite that DNA out, like, then what? Yeah, right. Tarot for oracle for. So, yeah, attention is, is definitely key now. I think, Larry, you touched on it briefly, some dangers and pitfalls and, and I know earlier you were like, yeah, you just don't willy nilly go jumping. And you know, are there other, you know, things to be on the lookout or to be cautious of for somebody new kind of wanting to jump into quantum in their spiritual practice and work? [00:40:20] Speaker C: Well, I think not just quantum leaping, but anything that we do, whether it be spiritual, metaphysically or in the physical realm, anything we do, we need to, we need to start off and, and take baby steps. If we just, you know, if you go off on a tennis court and you do no stretching, no, no game prep and you just start running around hitting a ball, you're probably gonna pull a muscle or get extremely sore. Okay? It's baby steps. It's learning to walk before you can run. And too many times I see people just want to jump into the spiritual world and just jump right into, whether it be energy healing or, or, or readings and they, they have no idea what they're opening up themselves for. And I was working with a lady that was like, she's like, oh my God. She's like, I can't sleep at night. I said, I told you not to do this. You weren't ready for this, you know, because when you open a door to something, it's very difficult to close that door back. And sometimes it's impossible. Once we, once we open that door, our reality gets changed and we can't close that door and we have to deal with it. That's why I say it's best to do the latter effect and take it really slow. This life is meant to learn. It's, it's work. This is a marathon, you know, it's not a sprint. And so whatever we do, whether it be on the quantum level or the physical, we need to really respect it and learn it. And I believe that if you learn something from the ground up, you're going to be more educated and you're going to use the tool at it, at its utmost, for the utmost results, rather than just jumping in and, you know, grabbing a hammer and starting to swing. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Well, and this is a very good question here from Tarot and Oracle for the. So says I want to jump timelines, but I'm scared to. What if I end up somewhere worse? [00:42:31] Speaker C: Well, exactly, and that's, and that's why we say you need, when you start to quantum jump, you've got to know where you want to go. You have to, you have to talk to your, you have to have an idea what you want, where you want to go or what you're trying to gain, what type of information you're trying to gain. Your oversoul will help you and guide you to that quantum level and change, alter your frequency to get there. If you just, if you just haphazardly say, you know what? I just want to jump. Good luck. You don't know where you're going to land. And there, there was a movie about that, I think, or TV series, right? [00:43:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was. [00:43:15] Speaker C: So I think, I think it's got to be slow. I think, you know, if you want to get into Quantum Leap and you just got to really take it slow and do the research. Get comfortable with meditation, get comfortable coming out of meditation, get comfortable with all the aspects of meditation, distractions and how to deal with distractions. And from there you can start having that conversation with your oversold. But I. Your oversoul is not going to let you go somewhere you don't want to. That, that, that you absolutely shouldn't go to. But it absolutely will put you in a place that's going to teach you a lesson if you're doing something you shouldn't be doing. You know, it's, it's just like your. Your parents saying, don't touch the stove. It's hot. And what do you do? You know, you go to your oversold and you say, I want to do this. Your oversold is going to say, hey, it's okay. You'll learn your lesson. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Mm. [00:44:18] Speaker C: So it's. It's about knowing and respecting. [00:44:22] Speaker A: Mm. [00:44:24] Speaker B: Now, what about you, Maria? Do you have any warnings for quantum jumping? [00:44:30] Speaker A: I do agree with Larry, what he said, but I want to piggyback on the fact of meditation. A lot of people don't know how to meditate, and a lot of people don't realize what meditation is. It is not just sitting down and doing ohm. That's not what it is. Meditation is actually at a moment where your. Your mind. This monkey talk is not talking. So a person can be meditating while they're painting, because that's what they like to do is their passion. They're not thinking about anything. Nothing is coming in. Not, oh, oh, I have to pick up my dry cleaning or I have to go and get some milk. That is, you know, it's just completely. One meditation is also taking a walk and paying attention what's in front of you and not having, you know, having the earbuds with the music going on. It's just completely absorbing what nature has and what's in front of you, but also being aware of what's going on all around you. So having a clear practice of meditation, it could be walking the dog, you know, you and the dog. It could be just sitting quietly, listening to your breath. Having a clear cut practice of meditation is the key to that, you know, quantum jumping. You're gonna go into your inner world. You're gonna go with your altered souls. And even though you're. I call it the higher soul, Larry. You call it the overso. I call it the higher. So the higher soul is. Is still going to be in charge. And yes, they won't stop you, but you definitely will learn a lesson. [00:46:23] Speaker C: Yeah. And, you know, you, you. You talked about the. The walking and, and you know, in. In the quantum world, there's something called super superposition, which says that everything is. Every particle is moving in every direction, and it's creating every possibility at the exact same time. And at no point is there a definite outcome until that particle becomes observed. When that particle becomes observed, it become. That's when reality shifts in. And why is that important? Because when we take a walk, it's un. We need to understand that there is so much going on. There is so much Superpositioning happening around us, but we're just focused on the path and our. And where we're heading to. And we're walking past so much beauty, so much important information that we could be learning. When you meditate, you're in a position where you're able to take all that information in and. And absorb it and learn from it. And one of my favorite meditations happens to be with my dog. And that's not really long, but if. If you're a pet lover, sit with your animal and create. Create an eye contact. And it'll take a little while for. For the. For. It took a little while for the dog to really respond, but she and I could sit and stare at each other for sometimes 10 minutes. And there's just this bond and it's like I'm out of my body and just. Just feeling everything going on around me. And to me, that's a great way of meditating with. With an animal. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Now it's fun because we've. We've kind of answered this question a little bit in a previous episode because this is kind of like part two of the quantum leaping. And we did have Dana chasing on with us two, three weeks ago about the Akashic record. Asked her about quantum leaping in the Akashic. If I remember correctly, Maria, correct me if I'm wrong, she was kind of saying, like, leaping is in a way, like opening up the quantum records of what is most relevant for what you're going on now. So they're similar yet different. Different. [00:48:49] Speaker A: It. [00:48:50] Speaker B: It's kind of fun how they're. They're similar yet different. Somewhat connected, but yet completely different experiences. [00:48:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:59] Speaker B: And I think for some of us who are more visual, like me, it's easier for me to like, meditate and put myself into a giant library and say I need to know about. And like, imagine the walls of books, like, shifting until the one that I need comes out presents itself rather than trying to sit and meditate and project myself off somewhere. So I, you know, it kind of for each person might be different, depending what is easier for you. Now, Maria, I know you mentioned in the last time we talked on quantum leaping, there was a book by a certain gentleman that you were highly recommending. Yes. [00:49:44] Speaker A: Do you remember Bert Goldman? He. We lost him in 2020. He has a book is still available. I know I have. I have it on my Kindle and I refer to it. He makes the. He makes. He explained it in a very simple form. This gentleman has also been trained with the silver technique as far as meditation. But it's, it's a really good book. You know, it gives you an idea. And then the, the one thing I always tell people with meditation, you know, a lot of people, like, you know, they look at it as a chore. It's not a chore. I always tell people, have fun with it. Approach it like you're, you. You're a child going to a playground. You're going on swing, and you're just gonna play with this. It's going to take a while for you to find out what type of meditation that you enjoy. But for me, it. I like to listen to nature. And I know in the winter months it's hard. I don't want to be out there in the cold with a jacket. But whatever. I cook the information that I collect when it's nice, when I meditate, that's my point of reference. I put myself back into the park. I put myself back listening to the water. I have that point of reference. And in the beginning, it might be a little bit tricky, and it might be a little bit hard, but just play with it. Approach it like it's a. Is a new toy that you're going to play with. It's not a chore. [00:51:26] Speaker B: So the book title is Quantum Leaping by Bert Goldman. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Quantum jumping. Yeah. [00:51:33] Speaker B: Quantum jumping. Yes, it is quantum jumping because I keep using jumping and leaping interchangeably and Quantum Jumping by Bert Golson. And there are quite a few videos out there all over YouTube and other places that should be accessible for everybody to go watch. Larry, did you have any resources for. To share with our, our friends here to get going? [00:52:03] Speaker C: I, I watch a lot of videos on YouTube. There's, there's a plethora of different people on YouTube talking about many different avenues or aspects of the quantum theory and quantum jumping. And there are some that I, I enjoy listening to. They, they speak in a very clear manner that I can, I can understand. There's others that, that become really deep and, and, and it's hard to follow. So that's kind of my go to is when I'm researching something like this, I'll, I'll go on YouTube and watch, you know, the videos. I would, I would just say, you know, if, if, if people know nothing else, just know that everything is energy. We're energy, our thoughts are energy. The chair you're sitting on is energy. It's, it's particles, it's atoms and electrons bound together to form a solid object. Everything at its simplest core is energy. And energy can be manipulated. It can be Used in any way we choose. And if you, if you're not happy with what's going on in your life, the easiest way of altering that is changing your thought, which then shifts your energy and brings you to a different frequency. And that in itself is one of the essences to learn how to jump is altering your frequency, altering your wavelength. And it's really as simple as altering your thoughts and changing your reality. [00:53:45] Speaker B: What about you, Maria? [00:53:48] Speaker A: Larry pretty much bring it up to focus. It is changing your thoughts. You know, also, I just want to put a little danger warning. Sometimes when a person learns how to do this and they get very excited about it, they said, oh, I can get rid of 10 things. Don't like. Larry said, do it slow. I agree with him. Do it slow. Just say, oh, I, I did it once so I can get rid of all 10 things that I don't like in my life. No, don't do that. There is an ethics thing that you have to follow also, not just for yourself. Sometimes people want to, oh, I can do this for so and so, my loved one, my family member. Not necessarily. That doesn't happen that way. Everybody has their own lessons they wanted to learn in this life. So everyone goes in a different pace. And it's not up to you to say, I'm gonna do this. Unless if they're not ready. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Yep, yep. What do you mean I, I shouldn't rip the band aid off and do it all at once? Jump start the whole process. What? [00:55:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it took. It took a while. It took a while. You can go ahead and do it, but it took a while to get there, so it's gonna take a while to undo. Let's rip the bandit off slowly. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Oh, fine. This will do 2 or 3 instead of 10. Slow my plan down, why don't you? Oh, my goodness. So, yeah, quantum jumping and leaping, it's a really thought provoking thing. And given everything that's been happening, like currently, right now, and just wondering, I'm like, have I been ping ponged and shoved into some other ones with everything going on and learning and, and coping and I'm like, really, really couldn't have just wrote it on a wall in a dryer to shove me over here to go experience that. That's fun. I stick to my own self. How fun is that? [00:56:21] Speaker C: Sometimes we have to experience the moment to learn the lesson. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:26] Speaker C: You know, we can't. You'll. You'll never learn to ride a bike unless you learned how to fall and get up and get back on it. [00:56:33] Speaker B: Very true. You got to learn to balance. Right. And how do you learn to balance? How not to balance first? [00:56:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Why? Why Balancing is important. [00:56:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:43] Speaker B: So. Well, we don't have any other questions on quantum jumping. I think everybody's hamster wheels are spinning and processing that information that they learned tonight. And I'm sure there's going to be a lot of quantum jumping videos watched in the next couple days or so and some books read and ordered. But thank you, Larry for joining us for, for this. [00:57:06] Speaker C: My pleasure. Thank you. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Yeah it's, it's a fun, it's a fun topic and all the possibilities and how many other universes did we just create talking about this openly again? So you know. Yeah, but well, thanks for joining us guys. 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