Keeping The Aura Heathy In Paranormal Investigations

[00:00:15] Speaker A: Welcome to another episode of the Healer's Corner. Tonight we have Laura and Laura's hubby. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Technical advising. [00:00:26] Speaker C: Okay. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Going over how to keep your aura and probably your whole energy field healthy, doing the paranormal investigative stuff, because some stuff can happen while we're out doing that. But why don't you two give a little, like, introduction about yourselves, maybe how you got into it, and talk about your group that you have so other people can follow you there as well. [00:00:53] Speaker C: Sure. So I'm Laura Slides. I am an empath and a psychic medium specializing in reading auras and making connection with spirit. I have been a paranormal investigator for a little over 15 years now, I'd say. And Matt and I Co founded 111 Paranormal, which is our investigative group. And, boy, we just have had great experiences and just a wonderful time doing that and trying to figure out, you know, what's next. And I think a lot of our experiences have brought us to a point where we've got some definitive ideas about what happens beyond this world. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of just came together and, yeah, we've had some interesting experiences and things that, you know, we can't explain, but we do. You try to debunk, you know, what's. What could be obvious. And then when you can't debunk it, then you realize it's something bigger than ourselves. So. [00:02:03] Speaker A: So the first question was, what exactly is an aura in your understanding, especially in the context of paranormal work? Is it purely energetic or does it have other components? [00:02:15] Speaker C: So I'm. As far as I'm concerned, what I see is somebody's energy. So it's a field of energy that surrounds them. And I call it an aura because I don't know what else to call it. But a lot of times I think what I see is what I need to see to give someone the reading that they need to get right. Because to me, those colors stand for certain things. When I see yellow, I know that there's something spiritual or supernatural, paranormal that's happening in that person. And when I see blue, I know that person has some empathic abilities. And when I see red, that's. That's a strength color. So it's. It's something where that person is strong of character. And usually that person is the one that people in the family or people that they know will go to because they know they're going to get a straight answer and they're going to get the right. You know, they're going to get the real answer. And so it's all of those things, but it's it's so much more than that, too, because they can change. I think that when you have paranormal or spiritual abilities, those colors often stay the same, but they come in different degrees. Right. They can be bright yellows versus muted yellows, and they can be bright blues versus a more subdued blue. And a lot of times those things mean that, you know, you may not want that or you may not be willing to admit that you've got that, or. So I have to interpret those. But the interpretation is really based on that person who's sitting in front of me and what my gut's telling me about them and what my instincts are telling me and what spirit is telling me too. Because I will a lot of times tap into. Depending on the shape of the yellow I see in someone's aura, I can tell if they've got somebody with them. And a lot of times, if. If I draw. I do draw the aura as well. So I draw it out and give it to the person to take with them when I do a reading. And a lot of times when I get yellows that are sharp, it's like I'm coming in, and the spirit will say, I'm trying to reach this person. And then we. We work on trying to get that message and find out who that person is and what's going on and why they're reaching out and why they're hanging out, things like that. And it's been. It's been some really, really amazing things that have happened. And I've not been doing this too long, a couple years now, but some of the most amazing experiences that I've had and being able to give people closure or give people an idea of who's with them and who's watching and. But also, you know, on the other hand, I'm also working with people to. When I get it, when I get an orange color in their aura, they are very structured and kind of rigid and, you know, want things a certain way. And so depending on what that orange is mixing in with, I can have that conversation that says, hey, maybe you need to kind of step back a little bit and not be so. Try to be so controlling in this situation. And so it's. It's really kind of a cool mix of things. Yeah. And I don't even know, like, I call it an aura. I hope that's what it is. I mean, I think that if someone else was an aura reader and read that person, they get a lot of the same colors that I would get. But I know what I need to see. To have that conversation with that person. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Now, I'm glad you said I draw the aura because I meant to have this ready. So I got up and left. But this is the one. And I hate the reflection showing, but this is one that Laura did for me. [00:06:07] Speaker C: Yeah, you had all the yellow in that. [00:06:10] Speaker A: So we got like yellow into blue, purple and you know that yellow and the blue, slight, slight green. But that yellow stayed pretty prominent. It didn't. [00:06:20] Speaker C: And that meant that you had, in that sense you. What I would interpret that as is that you've got a little bit of a pointiness coming. So there was somebody around you at the moment that we did that. But also too that you've got the ability to connect with spirit. And that's what that yellow means. And the blue is definitely you. You have a very much an empathic aura about you. So you can pick up on not only living but non living feelings and emotions. And so when I see something like that, I usually tell people I'll have a conversation with them to see. Do you know that you can do that? Do you feel sometimes that you can pick up on things and maybe sometimes it's not even your own emotion that you're feeling, but all of a sudden you switch emotions really quick and a lot of times they'll kind of stop and say, oh yeah, I do. And I said, well, that's not your emotion. Like you're picking up on something else around you. But you also had the purple, which is family, so you had the whole family vibe going on there too. And those do tend to change sometimes. I would say that the, that more or less, the, the yellow and the blue, those spiritual abilities, those are always going to be in your aura in some way, shape, form or color. Right. But sometimes those other colors can come in where it's like depending on what you're going through in that moment, you might have some black in there. That is worry. So you're worried about. There's a specific issue you're worrying about at the moment. And that'll show up as black around the outside of the aura typically, or brown is frustration or green. A lot of times is something to do with plants and animals. And a lot of times we can talk. I've run into a lot of people who have had spirit animals and so we start to talk about that and I'll get that picture in my head that they're getting like something's rubbing against their leg and there's no animal there, or they're feeling a jump on the couch or the bed and there's no, there's no live animal there. And that stuff comes into my head. And so I have those conversations and nine times out of ten, that's what's happening. And so I'm telling them, yeah, you've got spirit animals that are around you as well. So, you know, you, it's, it's an amazing thing because it gives people so much peace and, and love and you know, our animals are for babies. So when I can connect like that, it's always special to me. [00:08:53] Speaker A: All right, so second question. Dun, dun, dun would help if I was on the right tab. I, I may or may not have like 75 bajillion tabs across my browser, so don't mind me. How do you believe paranormal entities or energies interact with the person's aura? Is it a direct attack, a slow drain, or is it something else? [00:09:19] Speaker C: Well, I feel like when somebody has, especially when someone has yellow in their aura and they have that ability to, to kind of, to kind of know that there's some, something, some entity around them, the entities also do see that in them. So as much as that yellow is like yours was a very bright yellow. When I see that bright yellow, I don't think it's just me seeing that. I believe that the entities that are around them are seeing that and are drawn to that because they know that in some way, shape or form they can connect with that person. So whether it be by a, you know, a sign, which signs pennies on the ground and in a heads up because their grandma told them only pick up the heads up pennies or, or butterfly bush or bird or a cardinal or, you know, things like that, that there, there are ways that, that people that are on the other side can connect with you. If you've got that yellow in your aura, I think that's an important thing to realize. And so when people come to me and I can see that they've got that, I try to make that clear to them. And then we try to kind of dive a little deeper in to see if we can find out if there is someone with them. Who is it and what are they trying to say? I think that's, that's how it works. I don't feel like it's an attack or things like that. I'm of the firm belief that, you know, 99 of the time, the spirits that you're going to run into are just people. And granted, people are of all shapes and sizes and personality types and some of them can be mean. And if, if They're a mean bastard when they are alive. They're going to be a mean bastard when they're not alive too. So you're gonna get that. But I do think that, you know, for the most part, those things are not gonna harm someone, but they can make someone uneasy, obviously, but. But we try to get to the bottom of that. And so I. I like to think that it's more of a. A mission to kind of just figure things out, to solve a puzzle. So I don't feel like it's that. I don't feel like the entities are trying to hurt someone or attack someone in any way. But it can be overwhelming, obviously, for people to be able to. To deal with that. And especially if it's someone that you loved and you know, you miss them, you know, knowing that they're there is great, but you can't touch them, you can't hold them, you can't hug them, you can't. That's. That's a lot for somebody to deal with. So I'm glad that there are people like me and others that can be. That go between and kind of help facilitate some closure for people now. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Like what are some common signs or symptoms that a paranormal investigator aura might be compromised or maybe even becoming unhealthy while on an investigation? [00:12:32] Speaker B: A high fever? [00:12:34] Speaker C: No, I think the biggest thing is just that feeling of agitation, right? You get that. You get agitated and you. So a lot of times you just don't know why. But you know, if you walk into a place, especially if you're empathic, if you walk into a place and you feel that energy level and it's. It's just consuming and intense. Well, that kind of thing. Yeah. Can affect your energy around you because it kind of seeps into your soul. You know, you don't have to be even psychic to feel that kind of thing. People that we've gone on investigations with at Waverly Hills Sanatorium, they're not even psychic. But you walk into a place like that that has all that energy built up for so many years of hopelessness that anyone can feel it. So I think in that sense, that does affect a person's energy levels or aura in, in that way. And so you've gotta. You've gotta kind of step back a little bit. Maybe during those investigations, you take your breaks. You kind of go and, and. And have. Have a laugh with somebody or, you know, that's why you've got that break room, right? You've gotta, You've gotta step away from it and not just go full force into everything head first. You've got to take your breaks, kind of build your energy back up. You've got to be able to have people around you that you can share a laugh with or, or have a conversation with. That takes you away from just thinking about that at the moment. [00:14:10] Speaker B: Readings, too. [00:14:12] Speaker C: When I, When I do the readings, yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah. When I do, you know, I need, as a psychic doing readings. The very first time I did readings, I made the mistake of like going reading, reading, reading, reading and not taking a break between anything and doing it all day long because I felt bad because people were there in mine and I, I didn't want to turn them away, you know, and boy, that, that was a tough recovery for me for the next couple of days. So, yeah, you've got to give yourself that time out to be able to step away from it. Even if it's five, 10 minutes, you've still got to do it. Same thing on an investigation. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Now, now a side question as, as you guys are talking and it's kind of, it's for both of you. And so like Matt, have you noticed anybody outside of you two, like part of a team start acting differently that you then would go get like, Laura and be like, what's going on? Like, you know, and Laura, have you noticed a change in the aura, you know, after they have came in and start experiencing? [00:15:21] Speaker C: I probably that last time we went to Madison Seminary, we had a team. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Member of ours who, with evp, going electronic voice phenomena and the, the box said something, a word that was very personal to him and he was able to interpret it as a personal attack on him. I never seen him. He just got really upset. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm being attacked. [00:15:47] Speaker B: I'm out. I'm out. Done. [00:15:49] Speaker C: Yeah. So I definitely noticed that sort of darkness that seeps in and it's that worry and like not understanding and kind of confusion. Right. So. So that shows up as a darkness on, on auras. And you know, it's not, it's not wrong, it's not evil, it's not anything like that, but it's just that it can, can consume somebody real quick because you don't know what's going on. And he felt personally attacked in that moment. And you know, for me, I was like, well, you need to, you need to just step out. You need to. If you want to go, like, now's the time to go. And, you know, he left and probably within a couple hours called us back and said, when can we go Again, but he got, you know, he got out of the situation and it did help him to kind of bring that. That energy level back into himself and, and just start to heal that a little bit. But he definitely needed to step away from the situation at the moment. [00:16:55] Speaker B: We had another team member we were at overnight and she, we actually stayed the night and she was getting really anxious, agitated, and just bringing a lot of confusion, a lot of drama. And Laura had to step in and say, maybe you're not cut out for this. [00:17:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it was like. I wasn't trying to be mean or anything, but I. You know, you have to. You, you do have to have a sense of strength about you when you're doing investigations because you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know if you're going to run into a spirit that is, you know, domineering and, you know, someone who was a bad person in life, you know, and so you've got to be prepared for those kinds of things. And, you know, it's, It's a, It's a tough thing to have that conversation with people, but sometimes it's what's got to be done because you don't want them to. To have like a permanent scar on their aura because they can't find that piece that they need to find to get back to where they're healthy again. Right. So. So sometimes you have to have those conversations. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Did you have any new questions pop up, Maria? So far? [00:18:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:14] Speaker D: So on the side on this topic here, have you come across that if a person doesn't step out in the investigation that there might be a borderline possession, that they might bring this spirit home with him? [00:18:33] Speaker C: You know, I'm going to tell you, in 20 years, nearly 20 years of doing this, we're about 18 years in. I've never experienced that kind of thing. Like I said, 99% of the time you're dealing with a ghost. And so there's not a possession. That's not something that is going to happen. That's more along the lines of like an. I would say an elemental. That's an easier thing for like an elemental spirit to do because they're, I mean, they're more of like the earth and they can move differently than, than ghosts and spirits can move. But I don't think that. I think what happens when a person stays in the environment that they shouldn't stay in, it's just, it's. It's draining them. That's what's happening. So it's draining that energy that they have. I don't think that that then in turn becomes a place where they can get possessed or get an attachment. But a lot of times, you know, these spirits are in this place and obviously none of us know exactly why. Right. We don't know the answers to that. But many times they're there and they're going to stay there. They're not going to leave with someone who comes and says, hey, you know, I'm gonna attach to this person because there's a reason why they're there. Do I know what that reason is? No, I'm not going to pretend like I do know what that reason is. Why some spirits are. Are mandated to, to stay where they're. Where they're at. Right? I don't know the. The answer to that. But there maybe that. Maybe it's true that there's something that they have to do or there's something that they're paying penance for. I don't know. But like I said, I think nine times out of 10 they're staying where they are. And unless you come across something that is that 1%, that's. That's an elemental kind of thing, I'm not somebody who believes in demons. So the possession thing, I'm not sure how I feel about that. If I. If I experienced it, then I would have a different. I would tell you something very different and. Or if I witnessed it, then I would say something very different. But as of this point in my life, I have not witnessed that. I'm not saying that it's false or fake or. I'm just saying that in my experience, I have not experienced that. [00:20:51] Speaker B: And I think too, you know, when you talk about possession, it's also the way the people's threshold is. If they're susceptible to that, you know, they might have a negative feeling and they might think they might. I'm possessed because I'm thinking something than normally didn't think. So it's just a matter of how people react to that kind of change in their mental environment. [00:21:09] Speaker C: Also to the possession thing. Sort of like that. Sort of like that. So tying into that people that are. That has some level of psychic ability, sometimes I think that it can feel almost like a possession because. And if you're psychic out there, you know what I'm talking about, you get these thoughts that pop into your head that aren't yours, and you get emotions that come into you that aren't yours. And so it throws you, and all of a sudden you're in this environment where you're not understanding why you're feeling a certain way, you're not understanding why you're hearing things or, or experiencing something that you. You just don't understand why it's happening to you. And that can feel a lot like possession. That can feel a lot like an entity that's coming in and kind of taking over when what they're doing is really trying to communicate. But you just may not be experienced enough or not just not know that you've got this ability to interpret those things. And it takes a long time to get there. I mean, when I first started getting words and thoughts and voices in my head, I thought it was crazy, because you don't. They're not yours. And. And all of a sudden you start to. I started to finally accept what I kind of always knew my whole life. But once I did that, I was able to then distinguish between what was mine and what wasn't mine. But it takes a long time to get there, and it takes help. And one thing I will say, like Goddess Elite does a psychic circle, and those kinds of things should go and participate in those. If you feel like you've got any kind of ability or you're feeling, you know, those kinds of things, because that, that helped me quite a bit. And I, I can't say enough about what that did for me. [00:23:05] Speaker A: And we didn't even have to bribe you to say that you didn't. [00:23:08] Speaker C: I mean, true. Like, it really. It really did help me out in my head. So it was amazing. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Well, and it, it's a safe space, too, to meet other people who are experiencing the same thing. And you get to talk about what worked for you that might help somebody else or vice versa. And it's, It's a really great tool to use. [00:23:30] Speaker B: I think there's a lot of validation there too. She had that psychic circle and she's. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Like, oh, my gosh. I was like, I'm psychic, so I. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Sleep with one eye open. [00:23:42] Speaker A: She said psychic, not psychotic. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Hey, she asked for a lock of my hair. She got mad at me and asked for lock in my. My hair. I mean, that's why I keep it short. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Smart move. Smart move. Keep an eye on that toothbrush. [00:23:59] Speaker C: That's right. [00:24:03] Speaker A: It is a fine line chair. You know, I jokingly refer to our psychic bears as, like, psychotic fears, because usually leading up to the big ones, like the wine and spirits and like, by the end of the day, it's like, I feel psychotic and just done. And like, the plan, like, okay, I'm Gonna go home and sit on the couch and drool for a day. [00:24:26] Speaker C: Like, I'm. I'm good. [00:24:28] Speaker A: Do you find certain types of paranormal activity affect the aura or the person more like residual versus intelligent versus, you know, anything else you may have run across? [00:24:40] Speaker C: Definitely the intelligent would. Would affect a person more because you've got that interaction and you're. You're having direct communication. So absolutely for sure that affects. Definitely affects your energy level more than anything else because. Well, one. I mean, if you're a paranormal investigator, you're excited because you're having that interaction. So, you know, it's. It's an amazing feeling. And your energy and adrenaline is pumping and that does, you know, you can see that in somebody and it's almost like a glow. And the candy we eat. Yeah, there's always candy and cookies, but, you know, residual. No, I don't think much. But that's. That's probably a given because, you know, you're not having that direct interaction with anything. But it's still. I mean, to. Anything you experience is absolutely amazing. So we will take any of it. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Now, like after or thinking about going and doing the paranormal. Like, what is your. Like go to for cleansing or recharging while you're there and during and, you know, and after. [00:26:02] Speaker C: Absolutely. For me, it's hematite. Hematite is my go to stone for everything. It's a grounding stone. It's an aura cleanse. I always have hematite rings when I do readings. And I ask people, like, do you, you know, how do you feel about. Yeah, I've got mine. Both of mine from the store is right here. And I've always. Yeah, I mean, I. I love hematite. It. For me, it's. It's just a cleanse and it builds me back up. The other thing for me is my animals. I think that, you know, I too tap in. I tend to get a lot of people who have the same thing that their animals are what recharge them. So, like, after I've done a wine and spirits or some kind of an event, I'll come home and when I'm sitting on the couch, they actually all come to me. And then I just kind of get my energy back through them. And it's absolutely amazing. When I'm on a ghost hunt, the other thing I like is sort of fragrant smells like peppermint eucalyptus, menthol, things like that, that really kind of. They just kind of awaken your brain and keep you going and. But very pleasant smells that. That I enjoy too. And so we. I have a spray that I take sometimes for that and also too. It helps keep the bats away, which is great. But it's like that. That those scents mixed together for me, that's like my favorite scent to take and just kind of spray whenever I'm out there. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Now, Matt, as the non psychic in the pair, do you find that you have different things that you do after an investigation or do you guys sleep? You sleep. [00:27:57] Speaker B: I mean it's like a tired. I mean it just. It's tiring. It's a long day and everything. From a physical standpoint, I. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Not really. [00:28:06] Speaker B: I. Again, I'm not psychic, so I don't. I'm not as drained. It is Laura's. I. As a side note to talk about draining energy and things like that where when our cats are sick, she will try to take their ailment away from them and she winds up getting similar symptoms. [00:28:27] Speaker C: I am a. I believe I am a healer, but I don't know how to get it out of me. One of my cats lost most of his red blood cells and passed away. Yeah. Leukemia. I ended up in the hospital with such low anemia that they wanted to give me a blood transfusion the next time. There was one that almost passed away from pneumonia. I ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Almost like it's. It's been so. Like toothaches and just. It's been really kind of crazy things that I'm not even intentionally trying to do that. But I end up with that. And Matt has always said that, like my skin buzzes and so it's a weird kind of thing. [00:29:14] Speaker B: So it's like electric. It's like a. Like a vibration almost. [00:29:17] Speaker C: Yeah. So it's just. It's been a weird. I don't know. I have to figure that out. Melissa, you're gonna have to help me figure that out. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like we have a whole side conversation. No, no, ma'. [00:29:30] Speaker C: Am. [00:29:30] Speaker A: You're not supposed to make yourself. [00:29:33] Speaker B: My ADD just kind of went. But no, I don't really. I don't really have. Get back on track. I never. I don't really have anything. I don't really feel drained or anything like that. [00:29:41] Speaker C: I did have somebody, I think j. I think Jim, who was at Goddess Elite, told us one time that Matt was a little bit. He said a little bit psychic, but that the problem is I sort of overwhelm it and so like you're cramping my style. I know, I'm sorry. So that. But we've all both been told by numerous people that we've gone to see. Years before I started doing readings that we. That he was my protector, that that when I go ghost hunting it's a soul level protection kind of thing. And that he does have some psychic ability but that it just kind of gets overshadowed. So I always thought that was really cool. And there are some strange things that he goes go, you know, gets feelings about things. It's not. I think he, he does have some ability. I don't think we'd be together actually if he didn't because it's like, like knows like. And you're drawn to it. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Well, it's funny when you don't ghost hunt together, you feel weird. [00:30:46] Speaker C: I do. I feel very. Yeah. I kind of feel exposed and out there when he's not ghost hunting with me. And it, it gives me pause. I'll do it. But it, it, it's. It's a little different when he's with me. I feel much more emboldened. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Plus I carry all the stuff. [00:31:03] Speaker C: That's true. So I don't have to carry anything. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Carry the heavy stuff. Physically and spiritually. What are your three to five practical go to methods for protecting your. Well, you kind of said hematite, but do you do any sort of like shielding? Do you have any specific like ritual either one of you do before foregoing prayers? Anything else besides hematite? [00:31:26] Speaker C: No, we're not very rel. I would call it say that we're spiritual, not religious. And so if I do call on something, it's more about sort of calling on the earth, more about nature than it would be, you know, spirits or angels or things like that, I guess much more. What would that be like pagan, I guess. [00:31:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Please fall under that umbrella. [00:31:53] Speaker C: Yeah. But I do feel like we don't. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Really think anything's gonna happen. The thing is we don't really think anything's gonna happen to us. We've gone to ghost hunt because we. It's an investigation and not. Yeah, we're looking for evidence and. [00:32:05] Speaker C: But I will say that I also feel like I could control those things. Like I know, like spiritually. I feel like if we were threatened I could handle it. And so I think that's why I go into these places without feeling like I need to do that prep or you know, that kind of thing because I feel there's been a couple times where we've been in a place where we felt a little threatened and I, I shut it down. And I will say to the spirits, like, if you're not going to play nice. We're not going to play at all, you know, and have been able to then feel better after that. So I don't. I don't know if that's what others can do. I hope so. I feel like if you can say to the spirit, hey, this is my time. I'm here. I'm doing this. Back off. A lot of times they will listen. [00:33:02] Speaker B: We do that way, go to a new house, too. [00:33:04] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. [00:33:06] Speaker A: I mean, that could be a good beginner's ghost hunting, you know, class right there. [00:33:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:33:12] Speaker A: Do you find that you ever, like, flex your aura out more to try and, like, get in touch with them? If you're kind of walking in, nothing's happening. Do you expand that energy to make it maybe easier for them to see that you're there and, like. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I would definitely say I do. I do open up, you know, do a little bit of breathing. So there you go. Yeah, breathe. Like some breathing exercises, like the four square breathing exercise, where you're in, in, out, in, four out, or you're in for you wait, out for you, wait. So it does the square. Right. So in my head, I'm doing that and. And just kind of. It's like a scanner. I don't know how to even explain it. So it's like. It's like I'm scanning for waves or brain waves or something just to see if I can draw someone in and. And kind of offering like, can I help you? Is there something you need to do? Is there something I. I can help you reach someone or, you know, that kind of thing? And there's been. There have been times when we've been able to do that with even guests at, like, our one friend who came to Madison Seminary with us. I ended up connecting with her deceased husband versus a spirit at Madison Seminary. So it was, you know, it was really strange because there's a. There's a spirit at Madison Seminary named Otis, who was a superintendent there, and he was not a nice man. He was a murderer. And so I kept saying, well, there's a. There's somebody here. And it's four letter letters. It begins with O. And our wonderful friend Shelley Bennett, who is a staffer there, said, oh, that's probably Otis. And I was like, no, it's Otto. Weird, right? Just come up with that name. Well, it turns out that that was this person's husband who came as a guest of one of our investigators. And there was a whole thing that happened after that. So it was just. I think maybe that that person didn't have anyone around them that could communicate, that he could communicate with. And so was time, and I could open up. He was like, all right, I see your yellow. I'm coming. I'm going to communicate with you. I want to tell my wife this message. Right. And it was amazing. It was an amazing, amazing time. [00:35:36] Speaker B: She's basically psychic. Wi fi. [00:35:38] Speaker C: Yeah. I think anyone who psychic is, though, like, you just have to learn how to do it. [00:35:43] Speaker B: My mom came through. [00:35:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, We've. We've had. We've had that happen in. In other places, places we're going to investigate and our family members will come through through instead of somebody who's there. So I gotta. I gotta wonder if it's just where they're at at the time, you know. [00:36:02] Speaker A: Now, have you found that there are certain locations that are more that affect the Oromo without the paranormal activity? Like if it's an unknown local haunt that, like, the staff might know it's haunted, but it's not famously haunted. Are there certain types, you know, of places that affect, you know, that aura more? [00:36:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I would say, you know, a lot of times we run into people who work in restaurants that are old buildings that have been rehabbed, and those people that work there, you know, they. They hear things, they feel things, they see things, and they're not necessarily psychic, but they. I think they become so entwined with the environment that the spirits feel comfortable enough to. To make themselves known. And, you know, I don't know that those people would have yellow in their aura because I wouldn't say that they were psychic, but. But I gotta wonder if they might have, you know, something coming through that's kind of like when I draw it, it's gonna look like it's poking like, hey, I'm here and, you know, you're going to see me or. But I do think it affects them. And it would be interesting to do. What I would love to do now, since I've been doing this for a few years, is to start to get return customers that come back and see what that reading looks like now. Right. But in an in, that would be an interesting study to see if I could do oral readings for someone in an environment that's haunted, but it's not maybe well known as haunted, and then come back three months later and see if they've got some yellow in their aura now because they've been able to experience it. That would be a really interesting study. Now I'm going to have to look and see if I can do this. [00:38:03] Speaker A: Watching this thought process take. [00:38:07] Speaker C: Live, you, scientific mind in me wants to see if I can do that. Yes. [00:38:12] Speaker A: Danielle says, I like to believe that different spirits are drawn to people for different reasons. They make a connection with you somehow, Whether it be physically, energetically, emotionally. And sometimes it's. It's through an addiction that I. I've seen. And Maria, you've seen where if the living person is suffering with some sort of addiction, that than a deceased person who had an addiction will kind of like, like versus like. And they try to live that addiction through the living person speak. So same for like, the sanitariums in hospitals. Like, have you had any crew members, you know, dealing, Trying to, you know, be healthy, working on theirs, and maybe they've been sober. But have you had a spirit, like, sending sense that in, like, you know, mess with any of your crew members? [00:39:05] Speaker C: No, if we've had experiences like that, I feel like we've had, like, physical. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Experiences where we actually. People have gotten scratched. But no, no one's ever like, offered somebody to drink. [00:39:16] Speaker C: Hey, no, no. I think that you. You touched on it, which. Which is like, knows, like, right? Because I. I feel like a spirit would maybe. Maybe it's not trying to get that addiction through them, but try to get that understanding. Because a lot of people that come in won't understand what that person, that spirit, has gone through and may not be as what may not have the empathy that is required for them to understand, you know, what that spirit went through and what got, you know, maybe what killed them. And so I think that they would look to someone who may have struggled. And maybe that's part of what they connect with because they need that connection, right? They need that someone to understand that. That it's hard. And they want someone who understands what they've gone through. And that. That just makes me think about that even more because that's such a beautiful thing to be able to find someone that empathizes with you and not just feel sorry for you. Right. So I feel like that that's Daniel's right on that, that there are certain reasons why spirits find those people. And I could see that. I know for that did happen to us, we went to franklin Castle. And the. The woman or the girl that was there, her name was Emma. She died there of type 1 diabetes. And I am a type 1 diabetic. And I felt that I really connected with her In a way that no one else in that place could. And we. I got a picture of her, like, she literally came out to me, and we have a picture of her becoming a. What are you? An entity right in front of us. And I've got, like, her legs in her dress and her, like, her waist. Like, she's. She's becoming a spirit in front of this camera. And I've got a picture of that. And I don't think that that necessarily would have happened had I not been there, because we had that connection of that health issue, and she died from that. And so I think I understood that. Oh, as well as the children. I get children. I. I. One of my other gifts is. Is being able to capture spirits on. On film, on camera. And I would say probably eight times out of 10, it's children I am able to get because I feel like I connect with them because I lost a daughter. And so it's something that is so close to me that all I ever want to do is reach out to them and help them and try to give them a safe space to have someone to connect with. And so at Mansfield Reformatory, I have pictures of children. At Beale Manor, I have pictures of a little girl. Like, it's always for me, I capture those. Those children on film. [00:42:38] Speaker B: What about the lady in the mirror? She reached out. She wanted. Here. [00:42:42] Speaker C: That was. Yeah, I don't know if that was me or Christopher. [00:42:45] Speaker B: So she wanted to hear. But she wanted to hear a song. [00:42:47] Speaker C: Yeah, we. We did run into somebody who was wanting to hear a specific music that. Matt is a big fan of the Beatles and always has that on his phone. And for some reason, I walked into a place at Hilvy Manor, into a room, and all of a sudden, I just heard in my head, I want to hear the song Blackbird by the Beatles. And so we played it, and both myself and Christopher Jansen, who was with us, who's also a psychic, both saw her in the mirror at that moment. And so, like, it's just those connections, like Daniel said, you. They're reaching out because they feel some connection. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Have you come across another investigator who was kind of struggling with their aura, health, and if so, like, what. What advice did you give them? [00:43:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I do find a lot of. We've had a few investigators actually, on our team who are psychic, but really haven't delved into that at all. So it's sort of just at the beginning of a lot of times when somebody's psychic. I don't know if you. If either of you have run into this, but when they're not practicing and, you know, meditating or Learning how to use that ability. One of the very first things that happens is they'll walk into a room and they'll start to involuntarily cry. And it's almost an immediate. Like, I don't know why I'm crying, but I'm crying. And so I run into that a lot. And that's when you see that aura sort of darken that's around somebody, because they're just not sure what to do with that. What to do with that emotion and how to interpret it. So what I try to do is just talk with them and say, yes, that's. That what you're feeling is valid. So what you're feeling is a sign that you're feeling a spirit, you're feeling an entity around you. But your body just, at this point, your mind and your body doesn't know what to do with that. So, like, we'll. We'll go. Maybe I'll say, let's step away and let's go talk about it. And then we can walk back in there and see if it happens again. Right, Right. And so I think after we have that discussion, most of the time, we can walk back in there, and they'll feel a little more confident. So I guess what I'm saying is, like, working with people, that you can have a safe space to talk to people and to talk about your experiences. And that's how you kind of help build that aura into a better, more energized color. And so it's not so muted, and it's brighter and it stays bright. So it's working with other people that understand what you're going through. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Through now, have you had somebody show up to an investigation? You look at their aura, and you're like, you're not coming in. [00:45:28] Speaker C: No, But I have had a number of people who. I look at them and instantly sense that they have abilities. And I'm like, okay, you come with me, because I want you to be able to bounce that off of me. Let me know if you feel anything. Let me know if you hear anything. Thing. Right. So let's work together. And I'll say, I think you have abilities. Are you okay with that? You feel comfortable with that? And. And we've had people that have. That have accepted that and, like, said, okay, I. You know, I always thought something, but I never knew. And I. I have, like a. It's like, I don't know if other. See, that's another thing, too. I don't know if other psychics have that ability to detect that with each other. So I, I haven't had those conversations which I would love to have that just like a group conversation with psychics and talk about. Do you, when, when you walk, when someone walks into a room, do you know right away? Because I do. I know right away if they're psychic and they have psychic ability. [00:46:31] Speaker B: You had that when we went. Would you start starting out and trying to figure out what she was. She ran into a psychic and the psychic knew she was psychic. [00:46:42] Speaker C: Right. Almost every psychic that I've ever gone to before I was practicing would stop and say, do you do what I do? And I would be like, no, but. And then say, you should. But I want to have more of a conversation with, with individuals about their experiences with that and just see like, like I can tell if somebody is empathic versus if they're clairvoyant versus if they're, if they're, you know, if they're hearing or seeing or. It's a weird. Like I just want to kind of experience that and see if other people can do the same thing. [00:47:18] Speaker A: Maria, did you have any random pop up questions? All right, lay them out, lay them out. [00:47:26] Speaker D: Okay. Sometimes when you get a client and they have, you know, like disrespect that in them, but they don't know how to work it. Sometimes I feel as though that these people does not want to know. They're happy to just continue going on to have readings or go to paranormal investigation because they're curious, but they're not that curious to dive deep into their abilities. And, and I have come across some phenomenal people. You know, the other one, one of them was Nomad. Remember Melissa? Yeah, he. I mean he came in the room for a reading with me and immediately I saw the brilliant light coming out of him and I knew this person was ready. He's at the point that he was at a tipping point and he came and see me and I did say the same thing. You know, go and had the development with Jim. Perfect it. So you, you know, to know your boundaries are. And I. But there are some people you come across and you know, they're talented but they're not ready or you don't. They don't even want to do it right. So I don't, I don't tell them anything. I just say, well, you sense this. I, I don't think that already have you come across people like that. [00:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I have too. Yeah, I've experienced that quite a bit. Especially when you're. Well, when you're detecting that in somebody. But I, I will, typically what I will do is I will say, do you, do you know that you can sense things? Or do you know that you pick up on other people's emotions? Like, like, do you experience that? And I'll ask them and sort of gauge, like, how they answer that question will tell me, do we have that further conversation about maybe you should be doing what I'm doing? And it's just a matter of being able to gauge, you know, having that gut feeling and being able to gauge how their reaction is to that question. And then that's what tells me if I should go further or not. And I, I, I've been lucky that in most cases when I've had that ability to, to find some, some folks who could do it, they were, they were interested in it. So I said, here are some things that you can do, you know, and I always start with, you need to learn how to meditate. You need to learn, you know, read some books on some certain topics and we'll talk about some things. And you know, just depending on what it is that I'm sensing from them, I'll guide them in some direction and then say, keep in touch with me, like, let me know if you have questions. I'm not going to charge you for a reading when you, when you want to call me because you have questions about how you're feeling or if you're sensing something. Like, I, I, I was for years looking for a place where I could go and have those questions asked and kept running up against, oh, you want a reading? No, I don't want a reading. I want someone I can talk to about what I'm feeling and what, what, what do I do about it? And so I've been kind of putting myself out there for people that have that ability so that they do have someone that they can reach out to and, and maybe help them in some way, shape or form anything, even if it's just a question, where do I go? How do I do, you know, what do I, what should I do with this? What should I do? Anything. Like, I want that, that circle to develop, you know, those folks and to help them figure it out. Because I never had that. And so, so yeah, I get a lot of that where people come in and some are uncomfortable, and if they are, I'll, I'll just outright ask them most of the time, like, is this something you're comfortable with? And if they say no, I'll say, well, you, you have to learn how to deal with it then. And if you're feeling ill or, you know, sometimes when you're suppressing those things, you can get sick physically. And I did for a long time before I accepted it. I was sick from a lot of different things. And so I will tell them, like, when I'm having that conversation, a lot of times it comes into my head what ailments they've had. And so I'll say, well, you're having stomach issues, but that. And they'll look at me like, wow, how do you. Like, how do you know that? Because I've been there, and I'm seeing that you're having those issues. But a lot of that is because you're not helping to get this energy out of you. It's just stifled inside you. And so, you know, those are conversations. Yeah, we, as psychics, we have to judge how we have those conversations with people for sure. Now, how would. [00:52:23] Speaker A: How do you differentiate between general fatigue or stress and the actual Auric Drain from paranormal work? [00:52:34] Speaker C: I would say, well, when you're tired, you're tired. Yeah, when I'm tired. Yeah. When I. When I have done readings all day, like. Like at our last event, I. You know, it's almost this. It's a fatigue. It's a very different level of tired. It's like, inside out. Right. I don't even know if I can explain it, but, yeah, I think you know what I'm talking about, though. [00:53:01] Speaker B: She didn't wake up till noon the next day. [00:53:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's just like. It's this. This whole level of fatigue where you. Your whole body just feels, like, used up. And I. It's a very different feeling than just the normal stress or tired levels. I wish I could. I wish I could elaborate on it more succinctly, but I. I don't. I don't know how to. I don't know how to say that. Just like I know that it's the difference. I don't typically get that on an investigation, though, I will say, because when I come home from an investigation, it's like going on a roller coaster for me. And I am like, super high adrenaline rush. And so it takes me good two, three hours after I get home to even calm down, because I'm just running everything through my head of all the cool things that have happened and, you know, what happened with this and who. You know, who heard that. And so. But when I do readings, it's definitely a different feeling because I am. I'm using all of that energy to connect with the spirits with those People. And I do find that if I don't give myself time throughout that event at, by the end of the day, I'm getting less coming through too. So I have to, like, I've learned now that for every, let's say I do three 15 minute readings, I got to take that last 15 minutes of that hour and just breathe and just think about my own thing, right. So that every time I'm going back and it's fresh, I can actually connect and get what this person needs from me because I feel guilty if I can't. So that's why they're there. That's why they're paying to get a reading. So it's my job to make sure that I can give them the best that I can. [00:54:54] Speaker A: Now, is there a correlation between physical health, spiritual health, you know, in, in the aura, can you, you know, can you see like physical ailment in an aura in one of your clients? [00:55:09] Speaker C: I, I don't see it as, that as much as what I, what I see is the, the darker, like the black color will kind of come in and, and kind of come over some of the other colors. And a lot of times that's, that's worry. And so what I end up getting when I'm telling somebody, well, I'm seeing black in your aura, and it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's something you're concerned about and you're worrying about. And as I'm having that conversation, it's sort of like a video that's rolling in my head. I start to get images of the heart or the lungs or the. And then I'll say to them, are you feeling ill right now with your stomach or your heart or. And so that black kind of gets me to see. When I see that, it gets me to that conversation. So I will say, yes, it does kind of draw me into that. It helps me in my head figure out what conversation I need to have with that person. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Nice. Now, do you find like exercising, eating healthy, does that help people's auras as well? [00:56:17] Speaker C: I absolutely think it does. Because it's not just a physical, that's a mental thing too, Too. Right. If somebody's exercising, they're. They're in a good head space. They're almost, you know, when people exercise, it's a meditation form. So whether you're listening to music you love or you're just kind of thinking about something, it's meditation. And so, yeah, I do think it strengthens. I would bet that when I would do an aura Reading from somebody who had just meditated or exercised or is eating healthy, that those colors would be brighter and they'll come out as very, very bright, dark colors, like just super pretty colors. And the, the, the more I see somebody that has worries and has health issues, the more muted those colors look. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Now, do you think science is ever going to catch up to the woo woo of auras and the connection with, you know, wow, paranormal phenomenon? [00:57:19] Speaker C: Well, you can go first. [00:57:21] Speaker B: No, because again, science, the scientific community thinks the paranormal is a pseudoscience. In fact, I read one scientist said that the paranormal study of the paranormal is the biggest exercise of futility. Because they don't, because again, if they can't prove it, they can't prove it in a laboratory. It doesn't, doesn't exist. [00:57:43] Speaker C: Well, the, the idea of science is that they need to be able to run experiments that can repeat. And how often when you're in a paranormal investigation situation do you get the same thing that happens three, three, four times? You don't. Yeah, fishing. Yeah, you get, you get a voice here and you're not, you may never hear that voice again in that same place again. Or you get a picture here, you're never going to get that picture again. So there's no way to scientifically prove, based on the scientific method. There is no way that they'll ever accept it because they can't repeat the experiment. So I know, and that's unfortunate and they'll tell you. But I do think more and more people are coming to our way of thinking than ever before. And so I, that makes me happy and makes me feel good because more people are open and look, more people talk about it now than they ever have in history. So it's an amazing thing to see that, that wheel turning. And I love it. [00:58:48] Speaker B: See, the scientists will say, if you are evp, let's just. You're getting electronic interference from a cell phone or a radio or something like that. Or they'll come up with every type of excuse to debunk what you come up with. And it's like, well, I got a voice here. We all heard. [00:59:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I got picture. You know, I have pictures of things that I took. So I know no one was there, but I got a picture that came out with a little boy in it. So you know, things like that, like we all have to just accept it and who cares what science? [00:59:20] Speaker B: The scientists will say, well, the light refracted this way and it caused this shape like this. [00:59:24] Speaker C: Yeah, no, it's not possible with the pictures that I've taken. But it's. [00:59:28] Speaker B: It's to be skeptical. But after a while, you kind of run out of plausible excuses and you realize something bigger than rest of us. [00:59:36] Speaker C: Well, we'll just let scientists do their thing and we'll do ours. [00:59:40] Speaker A: So I was saying now I. I wonder. I have joked before about when. When it's my time to go, I plan on running amok for a while, you know, and my friend Sandy beat me to it because she passed. We were gonna have the. The earthbound hit squad and, you know, go after, you know, pedophiles, like, oops. Don't know why that one fell down the stairs. [01:00:03] Speaker C: Exactly. I'm in. I'm in. [01:00:06] Speaker A: You know, but now I'm like, okay, let's a, you know, science. And I feel like it would be more college, right? A college putting on, trying to do some paranormal research and be like, all right, let me know, and when I kick it, I'll come repeat some for you. [01:00:22] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Let's do it. That's what you need. I'm game. You know, I got all the time in the world then. [01:00:29] Speaker C: You know, the funny thing is, is that. Which we don't see a lot of the. The peri. Unity. You know, there's a lot of infighting. And did you really get this or did. But I. I often think, like, if. If as paranormal investigators, creators, if we all got together and kind of shared evidence and shared our experiences, we probably could do those things and say that we've, you know, the same group did this and four different groups got the same answer, right? That probably would happen, but we don't have a lot of that. That unification that we should have as paranormal investigators. Because. Because we're. We're all trying to find the same thing, right? What happens next. That's the ultimate goal of what we're doing, is what happens next. And as a psychic, I'm trying to find a way to help people connect with those people. And so I feel like if everybody kind of got together, we probably could have experiments that were scientifically proven, Right? [01:01:35] Speaker A: Like, your team goes in on this Monday. This team goes in the next Monday to where you're not overlapping. You're not, you know, contaminating each other's evidence, you know, and be like, here's what happened four times with four different people on four different days, you know, or however many they need to be what they consider like their baseline or, you know, yeah, I'm in some. [01:02:01] Speaker C: Some paranormal research. [01:02:02] Speaker A: Let me know if I'm not pushing a pile down the stairs. I'll come do your experiment for you. That's it. Well, thank you for answering all the paranormally questions, Maria. Did you have any other questions? All right, well, thanks for joining us, everybody. Hopefully you can catch us for the next episode of the Healer's Corner. We do this live Tuesdays at 7pm but you can catch the podcast recording Friday morning bright and early, ready for you when you're going to work, going to school, or just can't sleep. So we hope to see you again. And thanks, guys. [01:02:37] Speaker C: Bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye. [01:02:39] Speaker D: Thank you.