Animal Communication

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to the Healer's Corner podcast with your hosts, Melissa Wiles and Maria Cerna. Hi. Hello. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:19] Speaker A: It's like the same face is back again. It's like, we gotta quit meeting like this, apparently. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Talking some animal communication and animal energy healing. And, Chris, I feel like you're the, like, the local authority on this topic here in the Cleveland area. [00:00:41] Speaker B: I wouldn't say that, but I've definitely had my fair share of being around them, with them and amongst them, for. I don't even want to tell you how old I am. We won't go there. [00:01:05] Speaker A: You know, it's like I. Ever since as a child, like, we've always had at least one pet, and I currently, you know, have, you know, a pet. And, you know, I will say there's a part of me when. When my scissors crosses that bridge. As much as I love him, there's a little part of me that's like, I might take a break, you know, and just, like, not be in charge of something small that needs my attention and in my care. But I'm sure at some point I'll, you know, I would eventually get another one. And I kind of often said, like, I would get, like a senior, like, cat. You'll adopt because they're older. And, you know, I'm like, oh, come on, come chill on the couch with me. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I go through the same thing, and I have five dogs. I'm down to five. [00:02:03] Speaker C: Okay. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Well, how many horses? [00:02:08] Speaker B: Four. Okay. So two of them. I don't consider. Like, two of them are little, so they're like quarters of a horse. They're. They're miniatures. So they're, They're. They're small. One is 32 inches tall, and the other one's about 38 inches tall. So they're just a fraction of the size of the other two. Oh, I always say I have too big, too little. [00:02:37] Speaker A: They're almost pocket size for a horse. Standard, right? [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Rooster's about £200, so he's. He's the littlest. Littlest man on campus around here. And he's quite comical. He's. He's. He's also the oldest, so miniature horses tend to live very long lives, and some of them live up into their 40s. And Rooster, I think he is between 25 and 30 years old, and you would never in a million years think that he was that old. He's as honorary as honor can be and full of it. And he's. He's a great little guy. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Well, Maria, you You have kitty cat or two running around. [00:03:27] Speaker C: Three. [00:03:29] Speaker A: She's like, problem. [00:03:35] Speaker C: Three. One of them is a boy. He's really, really bad. [00:03:40] Speaker B: He. [00:03:40] Speaker C: He gets his tendency of being mischievous boys. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Boy cats typically are, but they tend to be more. I think they make better. I don't want to say better. They're a little bit more clingy than girls are. I think girls are definitely more opinionated and standoffish and have to. They, they oversee the area and tell you how it is and what they think about it. Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker C: You know in the morning when you, when a cat is scolding you because you're a little too late giving them their food. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Yes. I know that song all too well. The 5am Feed Me song. Yep. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Well, Chris, how did you get into, like, animal communication? Like, when did you finally, like, realize that it's like. No, that's really them talking to me and not me, you know, creating in my imagination a conversation that we would be having. [00:04:54] Speaker B: So I have had, just to put it in perspective a little bit, I have had animals since I was born. I've had dogs and cats and horses and chickens and pigeons and goats and you name it. I had a pet skunk at one time. And growing up around those energies and, And I was also an only child, so I didn't have brothers and sisters to play with. So they were my friends and my companions and imaginary friends. And I, I've talked to them all since I can remember. I have always had this, like, they all have their own voices. All of my, all of my. Every animal around here that has a name has their own voice interpreted through me. So it, it was probably, it was probably about 10 years ago I started. And, and I want to say it was after I have. I got a horse. Her name's Rainy. I got her as, as a two year old and she's now 16. Actually. She's. Yeah, she just turned 16. And I really think it was her that made me realize that. Wait a minute. I can feel what's going on with her. We have had a few health issues with her, with her feet. And I also had an incident about six, seven years ago now with her getting ulcers. And when the ulcer thing came on is when I really, really knew that when the vet came out, I'm like, she's got ulcers. She's, She's. There's something going on in her esophagus. There's something going on, like below her stomach. She's got something going on. And lo and behold, I was right. She had ulcers and just this feeling that I had and thinking back about how I felt when she got sick, learning what I've learned, what I know now, I'm, I'm like, I, I, I was really doing that. I have been doing this and I want to say it's been about five years ago now. I took an animal communication class. I had somebody tell me one time, I think, I think it was my other half said to me one time, she's like, you should really learn how to communicate with animals. And I said, I don't want to do that. I don't want to feel like Dr. Dolittle and have all these critters just talking to me and yelling at me in my head. Because that's what I associated that with. I associated it with a back and forth conversation like you and I would have. And that is not it at all. And once I learned what everything, what was actually transpiring and the light bulbs started going off of, oh, these feelings, I get these visions. I see that is how I am communicating with them. And the best way for me to explain this, I like to use this analogy is if you ever watch a herd of horses moving around out in a field and you can see one of them pick their head up, move forward, put their ears down, and start moving their way through the herd. And the herd starts moving in certain specific directions and they are communicating with one another. Some of it is through their, their facial cues and the way they position their ears. But a lot of it is telepathy. And they're telling the other animal, you go over there, you go over there. I want to be right here. And you can, you can see this happening as you watch a herd of horses move around in the field. And that, that is probably the most visual way that I can explain how how telecommunication works between animals. And they all do it. I see my dogs doing it. I see my dogs playing together and them, one of them grabbing a toy and the other one looking and going, I'm gonna get that toy from you and go straight over and grab the toy from the other dog. And it's not the intention of I'm moving to take the toy. You can see it in their face. And I can, I can feel it. And I know, oh, Bella's going to go and take that teddy bear away from Miles. I just, I know that's going to happen. So a lot of it is, a lot of it's telepathy and making that realization and thinking about as I was A kid having these connections to animals and working with them and being with them and understanding, they don't feel good, they're sad, they need something, they want something. And putting those pieces together, it's like, oh, yeah, you have been doing this since you were a little kid, since I can remember. So it's pretty, it's pretty darn cool. And that is something that, it's not just a me thing. All of us can do this. All of us have the ability to do this. And it's kind of like when you're using that analogy with mediumship and saying, you know, everybody's a me, everybody can be a medium, everybody can be a psychic or everybody can play the piano, but not everybody's going to be a concert pianist. Not everybody is going to be a professional medium or professional psychic. It's what your heart's into and part of what you're naturally able to do to make that task easy for you. And as humans, we gravitate to things that we are good at and that we are getting kind of that energy exchange of validating. I'm doing something good, I'm doing something right. So that, that, that's probably a long winded answer to that question. But, and I probably answered more questions in one, but essentially, yes. [00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, you went right into one of the next. [00:12:03] Speaker C: That's good. And that's good. I, I, I do want to ask you one particular thing. So when you feel the energy of the animals, when you, when they're communicating with you, do they tell you what. [00:12:17] Speaker B: They need. [00:12:20] Speaker C: Or do you just put the piece together? [00:12:26] Speaker B: Typically, like when I'm going to do a reading for somebody, I, I always, first, first and foremost, you always have to ask the animal for permission. And it's, you have to kind of befriend them and let them know you're not, you're not communicating with them. Like mom and dad, mom and dad don't, most people don't think they can do this, so they don't even try. So it kind of sets them back a little bit. They're like, wait a minute, you understand what I'm saying, what I'm thinking here? And once you get past that, I start getting visualizations of what has happened to them in their past. And then I go into having feelings of what is going on with them. If they have an illness, if something hurts their emotions, if something's not right, and being able to feel into those particular things, the emotions, the, the, the visions, I can then tell pet parent, your dog has had a situation that they were abused and they are severely afraid of large men with long hair. I can usually get down to that much of a detail, so. And then they go, oh, yeah, my friend George, he comes over, he's got a mullet, and my dog is terrified of him. And I tell them, you know, if George is a good friend of yours and he's coming over a lot, ask George to bring a T shirt that he has worn around all day and leave it in your house so your dog can get used to the smell of George and it being comfortable at home. So when he comes over, he's used to that smell and doesn't perceive George as a threat. And tell George he needs to make himself smaller until your dog gets used to his energy because they have more of a sense of energy and what that imprint of that energy was versus a facial recognition. There's only a few animals that have the ability to perceive faces like we do. Horses can do it, elephants can do it. There's a handful of others that can do it, but not chimpanzees can do it. Dogs, cats, they're perceiving an energy of something. So they're feeling that that large energy smells can set it off. And working through a situation like the example that I gave will help fix what the issue is. So do I get an immediate, this is scaring me, I. And I want this to happen? No, it's more of a sense of breaking it down and then coming up with a solution to solve it. [00:15:26] Speaker C: Cats have a tendency to, and I know this with my dogs, when I had dogs, they have a tendency to take on whatever incident is going on, if there's an argument, a disagreement, and I feel them taking it on. And that's when I have to stop and I have to either take them outside in the yard or let them run around just to get them away from that stress energy. So they feel stressed just like we do. And they go through traumas, since you brought up the trauma, just like humans does, but they can't tell us, you know, you're able to sense it, you're able to piece it, but they can't outright say, I, I don't like him because he scares me. [00:16:15] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:16:16] Speaker B: It's not, not a literal conversation like you and I have. It's more of a. A sensing. Sensing their energy field and getting flashes of things that they show me that have, that have traumatized them and that have put a. Put a negative on them about what, how they feel about certain energies and certain places and smells. And sounds. That's why you'll see some dogs are very triggered by lightning and thunder and banging noises. Some cats are the same way. They don't like thunderstorms. And that can be because there was something traumatic that happened to them and that really scared them during a thunderstorm. So that whole energy that is going on when a thunderstorm is about to happen or when that lightning cracks, they get brought back to that, that memory of whatever traumatized them during that, that storm or that, that storm that happened or that noise that happened in their past. They, they tend to. People say, oh, that's a dog, it's a cat, it's just an animal. They don't, they don't remember things like that or they don't have feelings like we do. And yes, they do. They, they have very good memories. They, they have the ability to recognize things. They have the ability to. Their senses are so much more acute than ours are because they rely on them to survive. Unlike we can sit and talk to each other and argue with each other and disagree about things. They run on their emotions, anxieties, fears, sight, smell. That's how they navigate the world. And if you don't, if you can't unravel that, it's really hard to correct a behavior. [00:18:29] Speaker A: So if somebody is, is wanting to get into, you know, communicating with their pet, should they, like, expect to hear a little, like a little voice? Get mental images? Feelings are just kind of like a cognitive knowing. [00:18:47] Speaker B: It's, it is that gut feeling that, that knowing. And it depends a lot on the person. It's kind of like when we are developing some kind of intuitive ability. If your strength is being clairvoyant and being able to see things very easily, that's going to be how you're going to lean into seeing what's going on with your pet. So what you would do is you would sit quietly with your pet and almost, almost in, in a meditative state and visualize them and you together and then visualize an activity with them. And once you have gotten, you can feel into that and you're, you can get out of your, your mind of going, am I making this up? You, you'll start trusting yourself and realizing, okay, I'm starting to see things and I can send them images of things to help ease the situation. If it happens to be a fear or anxiety, like, like a dog with separation anxiety, for example, and you're using a visualization process, you would, before you leave your house, you would sit quietly with that dog and you would visualize yourself coming home. You don't want to visualize yourself leaving because that's what's. What they're afraid of. You want to visualize something positive that they are going to see as comfort or housebreaking. You're not going to, you're not going to get the puppy and take them into the middle of the living room floor where they just had an accident and stick their nose in it and tell them no, you're going to get the puppy and you're going to visualize and take them outside and say, good puppy. So they don't, they don't learn. It's. It's kind of like even going back to the whole Pavlovian training process. You know, you want to, you want to give good behaviors, you want to show them good behaviors, whether it's mentally or in physical, that's. That's how they're going to understand things. If you are more of it, if you're not clairvoyant and you're not good at visualizing things, having that feeling of positivity and having that conversation in your head of this is a lot of fun. We're going to do this activity versus I'm leaving the house and I'm not going to be home for three hours. So you have to spin everything into a positive, whether it's a verbal conversation you're having out loud in your head, something you are trying to visualize or, or a sound that you are, that you are trying to utilize. [00:21:45] Speaker A: I did something kind of like that when my cat, he was diagnosed diabetic last year. And for like the first three, four months, like the minute he would see me go into the kitchen and grab the vial, oh, he took off. So I would have to 5, 10 minutes, like casually walk around the apartment closing doors, you know, to kind of like corral him. And finally it was just like kneeling down on the floor with him and just trying to let him know, like, this is to help you and you feel better after. And like, he literally, like, if he sees me coming with the syringe, no matter what he's doing, he'll just immediately like, sit and, you know, take it and go. But, you know, then I was frustrated with myself that it took that long to come up with that idea, hoping that it would work and make him less stressed about it because we, you know, doing it twice a day. And I'm like, okay, like this 20 minute process now to give, you know, a quick insulin shot. But it took a couple days, I guess, because, you know, I'm sure he's like, I don't trust you with that sharpie pokey thing, you know? [00:22:59] Speaker B: Yep. So my guess is when you first started giving him your. His insulin shots, you're looking around for the insulin bottle, so you're probably visualizing where I. Where I put the insulin bottle. And then you're visualizing where. Where are the needles and. And pulling that out, and you have this mental image of the insulin bottle and the needle, and you're like, here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. So he's like, no, I know what that means. I'm gonna get poked. So letting go of that and thinking about, oh, I'm opening up a can of your favorite cat food, or I have a couple of your favorite treats, or I'm gonna give you scratches in your favorite spot thinking about those things while you're trying to catch him. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it took a little bit, but, you know, it was like, come on, it's to feel better and, you know, loves and kisses. Because I feel just as bad doing this as you having to get it. [00:23:58] Speaker B: You know, And I wish we didn't have to. Yeah, now. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Now he's just like, okay, are we done? Okay, let me go back to what I was doing. I'm like, yeah, but. But it. You know, with. As you were saying that, I'm like, oh, I kind of did that, you know, in a way to. To get him to quit. Like, making me chase him for 20 minutes, you know, and then trying not to give that energy of the chase. Like, I'm hunting you now, and you're in danger from me. Like, how he was feeling, and. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Oh, no, buddy, I'm trying to help you and keep you alive. [00:24:35] Speaker B: So right there, you were feeling his energy of what he thought you were gonna do. You were. You were feeling into that and realized, oh, he thinks I am stalking him. Like. Like he would stalk a mouse. So I've got to change. I've got to change my energy. And you. You recognize that and changed it. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah, now. Now it's like, come on, bud. This is quick. And we're gonna go have fun afterwards. You want one of those little tubi treats? Because you love those. Let's do it. And they're diabetic. Safe. But I will say, like, I don't hear from him. It's more of a feeling that I get with him. Like, I know here this month, he's, like, very lonely and upset that I'm gone so much from all of the shows that I've been doing. And in the late Hours. And I feel bad for that. So I try. Like, when I am home, I'm like, come on, you and I, while we're in the house, I'll break my rule of no kitty cats in the bed. You know, you can chilling here just so you can be near me, because I know you're missing that. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:43] Speaker A: But, you know, it's more of a feeling between he and I, and I've not tried to do that with other people's animals. It's just kind of like, let me pet them if I can. [00:25:53] Speaker B: And then. [00:25:54] Speaker A: Because. So here's. Here's maybe an ethics question. Is it overstepping just to communicate with somebody else's animal? If. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:26:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:06] Speaker B: Yeah. It's personal space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You. You have to. You have to have that permission just like you do doing any other intuitive type of work. Yeah, yeah. Now if you are. If you're driving down the road and there's a dog that's running and panicking down. Down the highway and you're trying to coax him into your car, that's a whole different story. But, yeah, if you are, you know, your neighbor's dog is barking and driving you insane. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Send the shut up energy over. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Nine times out of 10, it's a behavioral issue that their parents are causing and not really something that they're. They're doing. So, you know, dealing. Approaching the pet parent first and saying, hey, I noticed your dog is barking a lot. I might have some ideas for you to help, you know, calm it down. I think it's having a little anxiety. Would it be okay if I work with your dog a little bit and approach it kind of that way versus okay, little dog? [00:27:28] Speaker A: Well, it's funny that you say that, because one of the. My neighbors, and I'm like, I know they create the dog. Why? Because I can hear it scraping in the crate all day as it's barking. And, you know, and I feel bad for him because I feel the anxiety of, like, being home alone and everything. But I'm like, after four hours, I'm like, oh, dude, just take a nap. [00:27:50] Speaker B: Keep it off. [00:27:51] Speaker A: But, buddy. Yeah, like, turn my true crime show. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Up a little louder. Yeah. Sounds like your neighbor's dog needs a little more exercise. Yeah. [00:28:07] Speaker A: You know, and I feel bad. A really pretty black, floofy, you know, thing I haven't gotten really close enough to. To really see because I'm allergic to dogs. And. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Oh, wow. When. [00:28:20] Speaker A: When she's had him off leash outside and you know how every. Every pet parent, a lot of Times dog parents would be like, they're so good. They don't need to be. And I'm like, I'm usually that one that they will break that rule. Like, they want to come say hi. They want to rush over. And of course he did. And he, you know, he or she got up and I was like, hi, buddy. And she came up, like, you know, grabbed him by the collar and walked him. And then, like, her boyfriend showed up. As soon as he opened up the car door, this pit came. Came charging over and, like, stuck its face, like, on my lap. And I'm like, here would be cool. You know, the whole time he was running over, he was trying to recall him. And I'm like, I am always that one. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:03] Speaker A: That, you know, they never disobey. And I'm like, because I hasn't been around apparently, because here we come. But yeah, thankfully that didn't turn into anything more than just some eye contact. And it's like, I see you. I'm going to be still and I'm going to look away. So that doesn't come off as aggression. Yep, you're a pit, and that's going to hurt. [00:29:24] Speaker B: And yeah. Yeah. Maintaining that no eye contact is really important when you. Especially when you're dealing with larger breed dogs that are. That have the ability to be aggressive. Pit bulls have a. Pit bulls are actually. I own a pit bull and they're very sweet dogs if they're raised right and they understand an authority figure. And an authority figure isn't somebody who's going to dominate them. That is somebody who's going to perceive their energy to be bigger than them. So if you are like mine is that she's just a total sweetheart, but she, you know, will get a little too rambunctious with the pugs or she'll get snotty with one of the female pugs that she gets jealous of. And I just have to raise my voice a little bit. And she's like, I'm in trouble. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. So she knows, you know, that she overstepped her bounds. And even. Even the pugs are a little harder because they just. They. Oh, pugs are a whole little creature of their own. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Do you think they're just grumpy and disgruntled because they can't breathe properly and they're just like, I'm grumpy all the time and I'm not listening today because. [00:30:47] Speaker B: I think they're like having gnomes. [00:30:51] Speaker A: I can see that. [00:30:54] Speaker B: If you ever Wanted to have a gnome for a pet. Get a dog. They're tricky, they're grumpy, they're very funny, but sometimes that funny part of them is there to trick you. [00:31:12] Speaker A: My brother had a pug named Princess. For the longest time, he was so heartbroken when she passed. But she, she was a fun little character. [00:31:19] Speaker B: You know, they're. They're something. They're. They're little clowns. [00:31:24] Speaker A: That's for sure. That's for sure. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Sure. [00:31:26] Speaker A: Do you find certain, like, breeds or types of animals communicate more in certain methods than others? Like, are cats more of a feeling? Are our dogs more of, like the, like the mental pictures or. [00:31:42] Speaker B: That's actually a really good question. I never thought about it that way. But now dogs tend to be very emotional, and I feel a lot of happy or sad. I feel a lot of anxiety. And I get a lot more visuals from dogs. With cats, it's more of their, their overall attitude about things and they, they. I do get a lot of visuals with visualization with cats, too. With what, what they, what they like and what they don't like. Dogs, dogs, their emotions seem to be high, higher and lower, if that makes sense. Like they're, if they're, if they're happy, they see cats are a little bit more even keeled and sometimes a little harder to figure out. And so I've done readings for a couple of geckos. They're funny. [00:32:56] Speaker A: I was just going to ask you, like, what is the most unique type of pet? And I think you just won. Crab. Okay. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Hermit crab was probably the most unique one. I've done birds and, and reptiles. And somebody threatened to bring a, a rat in to get a reading, and I didn't. I'm like, okay, great. And bra. I had a really traumatizing experience with rats when I was little that is carried over into my adulthood. And I am not sure. I did a. I did a photo reading of the mouse or the rat, and I was fine with it, but being in person with. And having to handle one, maybe I might. I don't know how I would react to that. [00:33:51] Speaker A: I mean, when I was a teen, we had a pet rat named Herschel that we inherited. I was living in Germany at the time, and my friend, her father got new orders. They were leaving the country and couldn't take, you know, or the parents just didn't want to deal with, like, trying to move a rat overseas. Right. So I, I inherited Herschel, and he was a cool little guy. Like, he'd sit on my shoulder, listen to Music and he would, like, bob his head and. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. He was a cool smart. They're super, super smart little creatures. We just had some really yucky ones in New Mexico that were. Oh, gosh, they were. They were huge. I mean, their bodies like, like. And long, like they're pinky. Their tails were like this big around. I mean, they were just like. [00:34:42] Speaker A: What are they called in the princess fry? The. The giant swamp rat things. And he was like, I don't believe they exist. [00:34:47] Speaker B: And tool around the south valley in Albuquerque. I'm sure he'll find. [00:34:56] Speaker C: Go to the subways in New York City. You will find them. Oh, yeah, they're huge. They're huge. [00:35:03] Speaker B: These are the same kind like those sewer rats. Yeah, these live in the. They have. It doesn't rain there like it does here. And there's a lot of drainage ditches. They let the mountain runoff fill up the canals and stuff. And that's what the farmers used to water. Well, the drainage ditches is where everything lives. That is icky because big bugs, big rats. Yeah. But yeah, the geckos were quite the gecko and the. A bearded dragon. I've done a reading for. They were. They were quite a lot of fun. Parrots are fun too, because they just have. They have so much personality and they can talk. So them. I do get a little bit of verbalization from them because they can talk, which is kind of interesting. [00:35:59] Speaker C: Yeah, those are. Those are neat, the birds that can talk. Yeah, those are neat. One of my aunts had a Myla bird and she knew how to answer the phone. She was really trained well. Yeah, she was. She was a hoot. I just loved her. [00:36:22] Speaker B: I had a neighbor years and years and years ago when I was renting this duplex, and this was in New Mexico, and she had an African gray parrot. And the neighbor behind me had a schnauzer. Well, the neighbor behind me used to leave her schnauzer outside all the time. And the lady next door to me used to leave her back door open all the time. And her African gray learned how to bark like the schnauzer. And she was accusing me of leaving my dog locked up in the backyard all the time. And. And that's how her. Her bird learned how to bark. And I heard the bird bark and I go, that's a. Not a pug. That's a schnauzer. That would be the lady back there. [00:37:13] Speaker A: Did it hurt? Schnauzer sound like a ewok or a wookie? [00:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that scratchy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that. [00:37:21] Speaker C: I didn't know that. I did not know that before I. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Found out that, you know, the reason why I always had headaches and everything was because I was allergic to dogs. I had too many schnauzers. And Shotzi, the girl, she always sounded like a wookie and she was so fun. Yeah. And then Monster the white, the all white. His name was Abominable Monster. We called him Monster. He had more of the traditional, like dog bark. And he was the grumpy old man that would bark at anybody that got near the house. And he's like, get off my grass. And I'm like, they're not even in our yard. Be quiet. Sit down. You know. [00:38:01] Speaker B: And I'm like, why can't. [00:38:02] Speaker A: You do the cool wookie noises like Shotzi? Like that would be less irritating, you know, to hear. But yeah, I was like, oh, do all, you know, have the ability to sound like Star wars bookies? Because that was pretty fun. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's kind of a typical schnauzer kind of sound. Pugs have this like. It's not like a full. It's not like a woof. It's more of a, like there's like it's not coming out all the way and then it's a lot of snot flying. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Let's see. How does an animal spirit or consciousness differ from like a humans? [00:38:47] Speaker B: They are very. They vibrate a lot higher than we do. They have, they don't have the baggage, the day to day baggage that we do with. I need to do this. I should have done that. I'm mad about this. I forgot to do that. Theirs is more pure of. It's more love. I mean, they, they. That's all they really know is I am loved or I'm seeking it. So they, their energy, it. It's. For me, it's easier to connect with because there's no pretenses to it there. You're not trying to figure, you're not trying to figure out a lot of the baggage that you do with humans. So they. All animals are much higher vibrating creatures than, than us humans are. And they tend to see things a lot better than we do too. As far as, you know, your, your cat sitting in the corner looking at something and, and you're like, what are you staring at over there, buddy? And grandma's visiting. You know, they're much more sensitive that way. [00:40:07] Speaker A: It's like the ghost that's flipping you off. That's what I'm looking at. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Good Job, little guard, you know, animal. Keep that, that angry ghost in the corner, why don't you? [00:40:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker A: So I'm sure a lot of our friends listening would like to ask if animals can communicate with us even after they have passed away. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Absolutely. Absolutely. I would say my readings that I do for people is pretty much 50, 50 with people who are looking to connect with their pet that they lost versus the one that they just adopted and they're trying to work through an issue with. And I think our, our pets, they, they stay around us. They do, they do cross over to what most of us kind of refer to as the rainbow bridge, but they have the ability to come back and stay with us. And there's so many times I can say that, you know, your, your dog's still around you and you're, you're seeing like this, this dent. Even though you fluff the pillow on the back of the couch, it keeps going back to the dent where your dog used to lay. And they're like, yeah, somebody. Or you're feeling a, A, a dent in the, in the bed where your dog likes to sleep and you just made your bed, or you hear them run around on your kitchen floor and you distinctively hear their nails hitting the floor. Yeah. So they do stay around us. They come and they visit us, and they definitely go and hang out with our loved ones on the other side. But they do come back and regularly visit with us and let us know where they're still around. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Oh, except now, you know, you don't have to clean the litter box. You don't have to let them out. You know, it's not. That's the way to go. But, you know, I'll keep cleaning sitter's box as long as he's good and healthy and hanging on this, this planet. [00:42:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:32] Speaker A: Have you had a reading with, with a pet that had like a huge transformation for the owner? [00:42:45] Speaker B: I have had a, I, I've done a lot of, of readings for people who have adopted dogs that they've, they've had problems with and they, they have certain behaviors that they're, they're not trying to figure out. And this one in particular that I can recall, this dog was very, very, very shut down. She was a ex puppy mill dog, and she probably hadn't seen but more than a handful of people before she was taken out of the situation that she was in and getting the information from this dog about how scared they were and how unfamiliar they were, and all they were used to seeing were other dogs in cages. And not experiencing the outside world, it overwhelmed them. And this particular incident, the vet wanted to keep them on anxiety medication. And this dog was basically just so doped up all the time that they. They didn't. They. They couldn't react to anything. So being able to explain that this dog is terrified because it's never been exposed to these things. And to do this exposure process in very small doses in controlled environments and inviting people in to help support, socialize her, it. It took several months. But I got. I did get some feedback from the person, actually. She came. She was at Wagner's and gave me the feedback of, you know, they. They started working with this dog, and it got to a point where they actually were able to take the dog to an obedience class. It got. It got brave enough to go into. And even though it was an adult and went into a puppy class and to get the exposure around these other dogs and around people, it really. It really started coming out of its shell. So I love hearing stuff like that because there's so many dogs out there. I have. I have two right now that were ex. One was from a hoarding situation, and one was from a puppy mill situation. And both of them, you come over to the house, you would never know that. They would never know that they weren't around people because they get socialized and exposed to people, and I tell them it's okay, and they trust me. So as long as the owner of the pet can really, in their heart, believe I am taking care of you, I love you, and I'm protecting you. They do understand that, and they do trust you. You just. You can't overwhelm them in the training process of exposing them to things. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Well, I'm. I'm glad they were able to help, you know, rescue. Give. Give a home to. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Uppers. I mean, that's a horrible situation. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Now, here's something we talked a little bit about before we went live, and you're like, I have opinions. Do animals take on their owner's emotions or illnesses? [00:46:15] Speaker B: Yes, yes and no. So emotions. Yes. In big, big, big ways, they are mirrors of us. So if we're anxiety ridden, if we are. If we're neurotic, if we have a. If we're bipolar, your dog does pick up and feel those energies. I had a client several months ago who came to me and told me about these problems with her dog and that her dog was displaying all of these kind of neurotic behaviors. And I gave her some information on how to try to help that and what to focus on and how to focus herself more. And I was just getting this weird feeling about where this was coming from. Well, a few weeks later I get another phone call again, nothing's working. Nothing's working. And she was upset about it. And so I switched the focus from the dog to her and kind of started doing almost a little energy reading life coaching session with her. Well, come to find out this woman was very, very bipolar and she had this inconsistency with how she was treating her dog. So she would be really nice and lovable and I love you and you're great. And then the next minute, if something set her off and she was in one of her manic modes, the dog's acting terrified and the dog's acting manic as well. So the dog was definitely mirroring the behavior that she was putting off. That was a difficult conversation to have with her that I had to basically say, you know, I think you need some other assistance that I can't really help you with, but I think you going through some coaching sessions with a professional is going to help you and it's going to help your dog a lot. And if you get to what you have questions after that, I'd be happy. [00:48:38] Speaker A: To help you with it. [00:48:39] Speaker B: But it was, that was one of the most, one of the more touchy situations that, and it was all based on, it was the dog's fault until I figured out it wasn't the dog's fault, it was the owner's fault. Illnesses. I wouldn't say that if, and this is just a drastic example I'm using, I wouldn't say if I got cancer that my dog's going to get cancer. But if I got cancer and I was really, really sick, the stress I am putting out and the stress that's coming off of me because of my illness can put enough stress on the pet for them to have their own type of illness. So not, not a one for one. But yes. And it's, they are susceptible to being under too much stress and pressure and having ailments just like we are. So I really believe that in order to keep that balance and the same kind of self care you would do with, you know, stress, relieving, practicing meditation. Obviously your dog's not going to meditate because they, they don't know how to do that. But these, these kind of practices that you have yourself in and then turning around and doing some kind of energy work on that pet is going to help them immensely. So doing reiki on them, if you have some kind of shamanic practice that you, that you do do that on them and that is going to, that's going to help their overall health in general. Stress relieving and their, their vitality as well. [00:50:28] Speaker A: So I've got what is probably a very hot take question then. I have heard many, many people say that when they're feeling, you know, overwhelmed and stressed or just, just whatever some sort of negative upsetting to them, that they love being around their pet and it makes them feel better. And my first thought is always, you are draining the poor pet. [00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:56] Speaker A: And you know, is that, have you seen that? Is, is my theory completely wrong? [00:51:05] Speaker B: No. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Why your animals getting sick if you're feeling, you know. [00:51:09] Speaker B: Yes, yes, therapy pets are wonderful, but therapy pets really are victims of needing to have some kind of clearing and energy work done on them and some kind of stress relief for themselves. Yes, they have all this love to give. Yes, they want to help their human and make their human as happy as possible. And them, them seeing their human happy, they're getting, they're getting fed back positive energy. But if that human is doing nothing but grieving and groveling and holding that pet and not giving back that, oh, I'm getting this release and I feel better and I love you and I'm going to give this energy back to you, then yes, it's going to have an adverse effect on them. Absolutely. Yeah. [00:51:58] Speaker A: That was just kind of like you, you hear, I go home and I've had a shitty day and I just sit there and I love on my pet. And I'm like, but are you siphoning your poor pet to make yourself feel better? Like, should you have taken a longer drive home and let that go before you walked in the door? You know, instead of dumping that on your pet or draining it from them? [00:52:21] Speaker B: Right. Or are you, are you going home and loving on your pet and then going, okay, buddy, let's go to the park. Park, let's go do something fun. Let's go get my energy out and let you release some energy. Let's go do something fun together. If that's the, if that's the practice, then that's great. But if, if you're just going home and sitting on the couch and holding on to your dog and crying into their shoulder and not coming back around and giving them positive energy back, then yes, you're, you're, you're, you're doing a bad energy dump on them. Yeah. And we all know what that feels like, just cohabitating with somebody or even like Melissa, you being In a retail space all the time and somebody coming in and they're like, oh, you have what I want. And then they leave. But they didn't go, oh, so much. You know, how, how much better my days now. Then you're like, oh, yeah, I made your day feeling that, that gratitude back. It's kind of the same, same kind of sense of feeling with them. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Right? It's like, yay, now that you dumped out. Let's, let's joke about it. Clear that away for the next person behind you not walking in your. What's his name? Linus from Peanuts, who had the dirt cloud. You know, I'm gonna go clean that, you know. [00:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. [00:53:52] Speaker C: Well, I have another question on the tail end of that. Okay, dogs, you can take them out, be out in nature. Mother Nature. Such healing energy. Their paws are, are on the ground. Indoor cast is a little bit difficult if you don't have a background in energy work. What can a person do to help their kitties? [00:54:17] Speaker B: So in order to help. I hate to point it back in this direction, but in order to help their kitties, they need to help themselves too. And to be able to bring that positive energy into the house and into. Because, I mean, most people, not all people. I'm guilty of it. My cats do get to go outside, but I live on a five acre farm out in the middle of Amish country. So it's not as dangerous as somebody living in the city. If you're not keeping yourself grounded and keeping your energetic health up, you are bringing that back into your pets. And you need to be mindful of that. And you need to make sure to stay in that healthy, positive state and spend some good, positive, healthy time with them. You know, get them some toys that, that they really enjoy. If they love getting some catnip, if they love having a, a window that they can see out and watch nature themselves in a safe space, that's always a really good thing for them. Those little, those little ledges that you can put up on the wall where they kind of like have the little steps so they can get up high and pretend like they're in a tree. Things like that are great for them. So mimic nature. Do something to, to make them feel like they're a part of the great outdoors, but yet keep them safe. Yeah. [00:55:41] Speaker A: Sith always thinks he wants out. And a couple times that he's snuck outside, the minute he gets out there, he's like, oh, shit. I'm like, get back in there. [00:55:49] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:55:51] Speaker A: You thought you wanted out here. [00:55:53] Speaker B: I had one like that. Her name was Phoebe. And I lost her about two years ago. And she was a. She was a rescue that got dumped off at a horse boarding barn. And she was probably only about 4 weeks old. Had to bottle feed her. She wasn't old enough to. Then ended up with a terrible ear infection. She was just a hot mess until she was a year old. And this was the cat that, okay, I'm taking it home from the barn, nursing it back to help and it's going. But she ended up having so many health problems that it was. She was literally a grown cat before I got her healthy again. And I think she had dwarfism. She had these little short squatty legs and kind of a normalish sized body. And she got out one night and this is when I was living in. I was living in Maple Heights. And she got out one night and she was gone for a week. And I'm like, well, Phoebe got out, something got her, couldn't find her. Looked all over the place for her for days. And a week later, a lot thinner and bunch of pine tar all over her. She comes home and she, I think had fallen out of a tree. I think she shimmied her little butt up a tree. After that, she never went outside again. A couple times she scooted out the door a little bit and it was, I'm not an outside cat. And back into the house. That was all she needed of the great outdoors. And she just decided, nope, I'm an inside cat. Yes. And she's still in the house. We, we, you move a chair in the dining room. You move a chair out of the way. [00:57:33] Speaker A: And. [00:57:33] Speaker B: And she used to love to sleep in the chairs in there. And you go to pick it up and move it and it's heavy as a brick. You would think that she was in there and she still sleeps in the chairs. And like, Phoebs, get your fat little butt out of the chair. [00:57:49] Speaker A: Onto the floor with you. Come on. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker A: Now, I'm sure you've gotten this question a lot. Rosie asks. I had to put two of my dogs down. It's been a few years. Do you think that they're upset with me. [00:58:08] Speaker B: So. Absolutely not. Like I was saying earlier, they don't have that baggage, that human baggage that we have. They don't have the guilt, the woulda coulda, shouldas that we do. They. They only know the unconditional love that we gave them and when we have to make those decisions. And I've had to make it several times. I could show you guys My, my little, all my critters, there's quite a few of them right on the other side of this computer. They time and time again. What I, what I am seeing is when we make those decisions, we make them for them from our heart. And it's to let them go with dignity. It's to let them go and give them something that unfortunately, when we get really, really ill, we can't give to ourselves. It's not legal. But with them, they appreciate not being in pain. They appreciate being free of the body, the illnesses, whatever the situation may have been. And I have never. And this is the same with, you know, mediumship is when we get those messages from our loved ones. They are, they are happy that they are no longer in the situation they, that they were in. And it's the same with our pets. They, they, they still are there with us. They're guiding us. They will actually give you that little nudge when it's time to find your, your next pet and give you the, the, the take that one home. They need you. And nine times out of 10, that one's nothing like them. And it's a whole nother learning, learning experience for you. So, yeah, they don't, they, they are never upset about that. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Kate on YouTube says, Ask her about the dental assistant. [01:00:34] Speaker B: Okay, so Kate, Kate, Kate and I go to this dentist and every single time. And here's, here's a good story of ethics for you, okay? So every single time I go and I get my teeth cleaned, the dental hygienist that is working on me, she has a white boxer with her, and that boxer is jumping up and down. Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom. And I want to so bad. This has been going on now for at least four years that I've. Every time I go and see this dental assistant dogs with her, and I am not going to do a grocery store drive by reading to somebody because it's just not right. So I have never said anything to her about her, her dog being there. But every time I come home, Kate's like, did you see your dog? I'm like, of course. Yep, yep, he was there. So I don't know. One of these days I've got to try to figure out how to, how to bring it up to see if the water, if I can feel the waters out enough to see if she'd be open for something like that, because that poor dog has been trying for years now. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Are you able to pick up like the, the pupper's name at all? Yeah, Max, here's where A widdle. A little white lie might come in handy. You know, be like, oh, thinking of adopting this puppers, you know. You know, he comes with the name Max. And just see if she will take that and kind of run with it for you. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Maybe tell the universe that, you know, you're not really looking for another dog named Max to adopt. But, you know, sometimes the universe be like that. [01:02:38] Speaker B: That'S a really good idea. I should try that, you know, or. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Oh, my grandma had a dog named Max, and you know something and see if she'll, she'll run with it. [01:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I need to. Every single time I come home, I'm just like, oh, a poor guy, A poor guy. And I'm sitting in that dental chair just apologizing to him, saying, I'm so sorry, buddy. I can't tell her. [01:03:07] Speaker A: But you can see me, right? Like. [01:03:13] Speaker B: Yes, big, cute, bouncy thing that he is. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Probably really pretty, being all white, you know? [01:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he's all white. He's got a black nose. He's got, like, it looks like he's got black eyeliner. He looks like a boxer dog. [01:03:28] Speaker A: He's very cute. Oh, these are little Goth puppers. Okay. Yeah. Maria, did you have any, Any other questions for Chris while we see if our friends have anything to ask? [01:03:45] Speaker C: It's funny that you brought up about the animals. Will give you the hint when the animal that passed will give you the hint when and lead you to the next one. I've had a few clients, and I. There was this one person. No, I don't want anymore. I don't want anymore. And I said, I, I'm describing what I'm seeing. I said, well, I see this, and it's not going to be a boy. It's going to be a girl. And then a few months later, she said, darn it. I went over to someone's, you know, and I was like, is it a girl? [01:04:25] Speaker A: She go, yep. [01:04:26] Speaker C: And it's the cutest thing. So I do, I do sense that, too, that, you know, you can be held, like, sticking to your guns. I'm not gonna have another one. I don't want to go through that. I don't want to learn it again. And once you led to this pet, all of that just comes back. All the joy, all the love. Yeah. [01:04:51] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. And I, I tell a lot of my clients that it may not be, and, and I usually get a sense of timing with it. If it's, if it's going to Be like in the near future, if it's going to be a couple of years, I usually am able to kind of give them a little bit of a window. And I'm like, you're going to be driving down the road and all of a sudden you're going to be like, I need to stop at, at the shelter. Or you're going to see this little dog in a parking lot and you're going to have to stop and help them and it's going home with you. Feel like, no, I don't want one yet. I'm like, it's not really your choice. [01:05:29] Speaker A: For the cats. The like universal distribution system, like the cats chose you and that that's how you get a cat. Yeah. Now, have you had anybody tell like their adoption story? As our friend Lisa from Development circle, she calls it the gotcha day. The day that she adopts her animals. It's the gotcha day. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:55] Speaker A: But like this perception where it's like the animal picked them ahead of time and like they'll even see little. So before I got sith, I kept seeing the butt end of a cat going around corners in my house and just running out and I'm like, what the hell? And I wasn't even leading up to that thinking of getting a cat, right. Because I had the schnauzers and I'm like, oh, I don't want to. And I mean for about five, six months and I'm like, okay, fine, if I happen to find you. And then that turned into like, the cats over here aren't the right ones. The cats over here aren't the right ones. These ones aren't the right ones. And you know, I finally found him and almost passed him up and you know, he corrected that real quick. Um, but you know, has anybody had like a story like that where it's like they kept seeing, be it, you know, in the imagination or literally almost like ghost forms of the soon to be animal, like around them. [01:06:57] Speaker B: I can't say that I've had ghost forms like that, but I have had people say that, you know, they absolutely did not want a dog and they ended up, you know, in a, in a parking lot somewhere and, and taking this dog and doing the due diligence and getting it scanned and saying, no, no, no, no, no. And then, you know, going to the shelter and them saying, I'm not. We can't accept anything this day. So it's like they were forced to keep it and it being one of the best animals that they've ever had I've heard stories like that and. And. And them just appearing, you know, like, I go out in my front yard, and there's this, you know, this tiny little kitten. And I wasn't looking for a kitten. And here. Here's the kitten. One of our. One of our cats that we have right now. The last cats that we got. I was like, no, no, no, I don't want any more cats. No more cats. No more cats. Because we. We do live out in the country, and there's predators around here that I get worried about with them, and I just. I didn't want anything to happen to them. And Kate was driving to work, and she saw the sign for free kittens, and she really wanted cat, another cat. So the next weekend, I'm like, okay. It was her birthday weekend. I'm like, okay, well, I'll cave. We drove down the road, and there's no sign. So I had stopped over at the shelter, and there was a couple of cats at the shelter. And we were. We got up the following weekend, we were going. Going to go to the shelter that morning and look at this one cat. And we ended up taking the road where. Which is way out of the way to where the shelter's at, and the sign was back up again. And I had been up and down that road three or four times that week and hadn't seen the sign. And that day, the sign was back up. So we drove down this long, windy driveway, and they had one kitten left. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Left. [01:08:55] Speaker B: And so we ended up. We ended up taking that. That one kitten home. And the ironic thing about him is I know for a fact that that cat is my pug, Omar that I lost a few years ago. I. Merlin is Omar. Yeah. Yeah. [01:09:19] Speaker A: Why. Why did Omar decide cat this time around? [01:09:24] Speaker B: I really believe that that was the case because Omar had mobility problems. He was in a wheelchair. Oh, so he was in a. He had his little wheels the last couple years before he passed. And being a cat, he can do anything he wants. He can go anywhere he wants. He can climb up on things. He's agile. He's not a pug that has kind of impaired breathing issues. And he's a little, tiny guy. Like, Omar was a pretty small pug, and Merlin is a really small cat. He didn't get very big, and he's. I used to joke when Omar was younger, he used to get a hold of pins and he. I would come home and he would have a pen that he was chewing on, and I would jokingly say, he's writing his dear Ma' am and sir letters. So Merlin gets a hold of pens all the time, and I don't know where he gets them, and he carries them around. And I'm like, oh, Merlin's writing Omar's Dear ma' am and sir letters again. [01:10:38] Speaker A: He remembers the stash pile that he had from the door, and he's pulling them out. [01:10:43] Speaker B: Yes. [01:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah. He's like, there's one behind this couch. There's one behind this bookcase. There's one tucked under here. [01:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And he. He'll steal them out of this little binder that I carry around all the time. He pulls them out of there all the time. It's. Yeah, I. I know he's Omar. My heart. I know he's Omar. [01:11:03] Speaker A: So, like, the first time you guys saw him, did he literally be like, hi, guys, it's me. I look a little different, but I'm back. [01:11:12] Speaker B: He was. He had the look of horror on his face because they had three really, really small kids, and these kids would drag him all over the place. He was the last kitten they had. Barn cats. And he was the last kitten. He's just like, please get me away from these children. Rescue me. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Anybody. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Somebody. Yes, Somebody help me, please. [01:11:40] Speaker A: He's like, I can relax now. I'm back home. Where did I hide my pen? [01:11:43] Speaker B: Where did I put my pen stash? [01:11:48] Speaker A: So for anybody wanting to get started in communicating better with their. Their pets and, like, what's good starting points for home pet owners? [01:12:02] Speaker B: So definitely people who are a little bit more intuitive. If you're good at following your gut feelings about things, that's a good kind of starting point. To know yourself. To know yourself and your abilities and to know what you. What you can. Can work on for yourself first. So working on, like, telepathy learning about telepathy, learning. And there's a lot of good books out there. Don't make me name one right now, because I can't. But there's a lot of good information out there about telepathy and how that whole process works. And that is that I. I strongly feel is the basis of animal communication is being able to tap into their minds and do it in such a manner that their trust, you have to gain their trust. They have to understand you're not going to hurt them and that you're only doing it to help them and building on it from there. If you have the ability to visualize is great. And work on visualization exercises so you can plant those things that you're. Those messages you're trying to convey over to them. So. But definitely telepathy first. There's a great series that's pretty popular right now on any kind of podcast platform you can find. It's called the Telepathy Tapes and it's actually about autistic children. But they do have a segment in there in the beginning of the second season about animal communication and how the, how telepathy works with animals. And it's really, really interesting and really spot on with, with how, how it works. So I would suggest it. And if you don't want to listen to the whole thing, just listen to. There's a section there about telepathy with horses and telepathy with animals and it's really, really gives you some really good insight on it. [01:14:25] Speaker A: I'm sure everybody's going to be looking up that podcast now. [01:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's gonna get. It's. I've heard that they're turning it into a, a movie. It's really kind of gotten extremely. It's. It's amazing like the things that these kids are. These autistic kids are doing with communicating telepathically. It's. It's mind blowing. [01:14:48] Speaker A: That's pretty awesome. Especially for, you know, some of the children who have a, you know, time or inability to verbally. [01:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:56] Speaker A: You know, speak that, that has to open up a whole new world for them to be able to communicate that way then. And get across, you know, what they're feeling and what they need. [01:15:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then finding somebody to teach it to you is also a good, A good, A good thing to do too, just to help give you that reassurance and get some practice and get some examples of what works and what doesn't. [01:15:23] Speaker A: I know one of our questions is like, how do you think working with animals would help with our planet? And I feel kind of silly even asking because it seems like it is so obvious that it's like, like that connection and understanding and empathy and love, you know, is, Is, you know, unless you have like a whole expanded answer. [01:15:44] Speaker B: So it's. I think with our current climate, I think working with animals and learning how to communicate with them is going to be something to bring us as a species back to basics, back to what really matters, back to taking care of things. And it's not just animals. It's the plants. It's. It's. Everything is such a delicate balance that I think people have taken for granted because it doesn't affect them. Well, it does, but you're not seeing the greater reasons of what why it's impacting you think about. I could go off on a huge tangent about this, but I just saw this, this article the other day about these, these, these woolly. There was some kind of woolly bison. They were bison or. Oh no, it was a rhino. They were woolly rhinos that came out of this iceberg that, that was defrosted. So if we're down to a melting point of being able to find creatures like that that existed, you know, thousands of years ago, we really need to think about what we're doing to the environment and that it's. It sounds like a stretch going from communicating with your family pet to saving the environment, but the core of it all is we need to get back to basics of taking care of. It doesn't matter if it's a two legged or a four legged or a plant or what kind of animal it is. We need to respect all of it and take care of all of it and it's going to make us better in the long run. And all this fighting and misunderstandings and all of the, the crazy nonsense that people come up with to, you know, argue over needs to be simpler than that. Life needs to be simpler. [01:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I like the message. I agree. [01:17:57] Speaker B: I agree. [01:18:01] Speaker A: All right. It's like last call for questions, guys. Animal communication. How to do it. What is it? We, we have the bus pulled up ready to run Chris over with your questions on. But yeah, it's, it's fun like learning to somewhat even in the very beginning of like feeling your animal and connecting with them and when you realize like oh shit, that really worked. [01:18:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:34] Speaker A: You know. [01:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:37] Speaker A: And I feel like they, they almost calm down with you more. [01:18:41] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah. [01:18:43] Speaker A: They have like that spirit animal feeling because you are so connected and there's that trust and that connection. [01:18:49] Speaker B: And you know, I would say this is. I've only had been able to make this connection with another horse person but you can get so in tune with them that, you know, horses are prey animals. So they're constantly. They can see the only, the only spots on a horse's body that they cannot see is the very top of their tail where their tail meets the top of their rump and the tip of their nose. They can see everything else around them. [01:19:27] Speaker A: They. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Because their eyes are set to be on the sides of their head. So they are so hypersensitive of what they can see, what they can feel. And they can feel like a tiny little fly land on them and immediately react to it. And I can sense things with my Horses, if I'm walking one of them and they're about to spook about something and jump, I feel that energy and sense it right before they do the actually spook. So being in, being that in tune to your animal's energy, to know, to know and to anticipate when something's going to upset them or if something's not, if they're not feeling right, if they're not feeling well. Now I am too close to my pets to actually get a lot of direct messages from them. A lot of the times with my personal animals, it's more of a sense of feeling the energy and feeling what's going on in their body and how if they don't, if they've got an ache or a pain or something's, you know, not digesting right. And that's where a lot of my feelings that I, my, I guess my vocabulary, my library has come from, with being able to do readings for people. But that whole, that, that sense of, of just knowing what's gonna, gonna happen with them is, I don't know, it's, it's, it's, it's hard to explain. It's hard to, to, to interpret, like, give you a definition of what that feels like. It's almost like an electrical charge of some sort. And I've only been able to kind of relate to another horse person that can feel. And I think people, I don't think I actually know people who work with horses are a lot more in tune with being able to communicate with animals than other people that work with animals. And I think it's just because their energy is so big. And you, and you, you learn to feel and read that animal because they're huge. I mean, they can step on you and squish you and, and hurt you really, really easy if you don't anticipate and feel that energy. And you can have a conversation like this with the roughest cowboy from out in the middle of, of the Southwest, and they will agree with you and won't think it's woo woo versus you. You talk to a really strict dog trainer saying, oh no, your dog is feeling to me like. And they're like. But horse people are a little different when it comes to that, that inner, inner knowing of what's going on with your horse. [01:22:39] Speaker A: What about the Amish guy in the barn? The one sneaking treats at night to the horses? [01:22:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he, he. I still, I haven't had time, but I keep, I keep thinking about it. I'm like, you've got to Go and sit out in that barn and try to talk to him. And I need to do it before the weather gets too cold so I'm not all bundled up out there and my car heart's freezing my butt off going, okay, Mr. Yoder. [01:23:11] Speaker A: Like can we have a conversation please? I'm freezing. [01:23:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. This happened last week. I was out feeding, which I got to go do here in a little while. And I walked down that aisle that you saw in the. That, that. Those pictures. I walked down the aisle over to the haystack and I turned back around looking back at where the camera is on the door and my fly spray bottle was in the middle of the barn aisle. And I'm like, why are you throwing my fly spray at me? Did he think you needed to use it? [01:23:46] Speaker A: Like. [01:23:49] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I think it was just to get my attention of. I heard you were talking about me. Oh, what I is what I felt is I heard you were talking about me. And yes, I'm here. But good. [01:24:03] Speaker A: Now we have questions for your belief system and the afterlife. [01:24:07] Speaker B: Let's talk. [01:24:12] Speaker A: And why. And then watch him just turn around and walk away. [01:24:14] Speaker B: Right. I'm done with you now. [01:24:19] Speaker A: Well, that was fun. Good to. To know you. I'm out. You know, we're done here. Yep. [01:24:26] Speaker B: Oh goodness. [01:24:26] Speaker A: Well, well, since you have to go feed all of your critters outside side if we have any last minute questions. But thank you for joining and, and talking and telling some fun stories on animal communication. Yeah, sure. [01:24:41] Speaker B: Yes. [01:24:42] Speaker A: Now I, I believe you mentioned at one point that you were getting ready to start a podcast. Am I remembering that correctly? [01:24:49] Speaker B: So right now I am doing a. I do have a podcast. It's on A1R radio. It's also on, on YouTube, it's Moonstruck TV. And it's just a little short 15 minute one. On Thursday nights at 9:30 I do a reading and, and answer some questions. Like I said, it's real short and sweet. But eventually I want to expand on it after I, I get more in the groove of doing it. I just started it a couple weeks ago, so once I'm a little bit more. I have a little spider running across the floor is like we're talking about critters. I'm going to come in. I have something to say. So yeah, I just started doing that a couple weeks ago. It's on Facebook, YouTube, I think they broadcast on Twitch too. And it's. You can. Any kind of podcast platform. You can, you can listen to it as well. [01:25:49] Speaker A: So if somebody wanted to get a hold of you for an animal communication session, like how can they track you down? [01:25:57] Speaker B: You can find me on my website, which is taro and lenormandbychris.com or you can email me@mediumchris clardymail.com or you can find me on my Facebook page, which is Medium Chris Clardy. [01:26:16] Speaker A: And every now and then we get to have you in the store when both of our schedules line up. [01:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:25] Speaker A: Because the critter doesn't have to be physically in front of you. Doesn't have to be still currently on this planet. Can, you know. [01:26:34] Speaker B: No, All I need is a photo and I don't have. If you don't have a photo, that's fine. I can do them without the photo. But it always helps having the photo. Most of the readings I do, there is no pet involved, no physical pet involved. It's usually photos. And I do offer I can do zoom readings so I don't need to be even in your presence. We can set something up on zoom. If you're out on the west side, I can choreograph with you and, and meet over at. Got to. If you're over out on my side of town on the east side, I do things. I do do in person stuff at my house and have a couple other places I can, um, meet at as well. So, um. But zoom readings are great. [01:27:27] Speaker A: I love zoom business from the top up, pajamas from the bottom down. [01:27:33] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:27:36] Speaker A: You know, be comfy with your animal communication reading. [01:27:40] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:27:42] Speaker A: Well, thanks for joining, Chris. Yep. [01:27:44] Speaker B: Thanks for having me. [01:27:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. [01:27:46] Speaker B: It's always fun. Hopefully we get to snag you in. [01:27:48] Speaker A: The store again here soon. [01:27:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:27:51] Speaker A: Because we, we haven't gotten to hang out with you since, well, last month at Wagner, so we can get you in. But yeah, thanks for joining us, guys. Hanging in for, you know, animal communication with Chris and we hope you can join us the next time. Bye, guys. [01:28:12] Speaker B: Bye.