Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, everybody.
[00:00:01] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:00:03] Speaker A: And say, here we are, Melissa, Maria, coming at you with a new weekly discussion, our Healer's Corner. And because we get a lot of questions about the different type of healing, what kind of healing can help with what issue. And so we thought, you know, what might be helpful if we actually talk about it, have a platform that you guys can come ask questions, that you can go back and listen and maybe help find some guidance that way. But I think between the two of us, I honestly was losing count, like, how many different modalities between the two of us that we have trained in that, that we actively use.
And I feel like more people know kind of what I do because of all the talks that I've done online. But Maria, I think if we'll start, like, what have you trained in over the years that in all of your healing toolbox. What do you have in your toolbox?
[00:00:58] Speaker B: I am a Silver graduate.
I was trained in Silver Basic Life, which is always looking at your options. And, and there's just so many levels on that one too, because I was trained how to astral travel, distant healing, levitation, going into walls, leaves, animals, vibration of colors, smells of colors.
And it. It that really, that was the beginning of everything. And then pranic healing came, ACR came along.
And so it was like spirit have always led me. And it build up whatever I learned from Silver also build up from that and chronic healing. I was curious about Reiki.
I went the complete opposite. You know, usually people take Reiki first and then they go to panic healing. But I did pranic healing and I was curious about Reiki, so I became a Reiki master. I took the class there. I've also did color tones, tone works intuitive.
I'm a pakukuna, which is a mystic shaman, perusion, mixing shaman and medical intuitive.
Yeah, that's a lot. I've also took classes with a Hawaiian kahuna and I learned lomi lomi, which is actually was really nice because I went back to my roots.
I. I learned lomi lomi. It is massage, a form of massage that the ancient Hawaiians used to do bone. And from there I was was retaught lal nima. I was retaught bone washing, you know, so, yeah, it's a lot of vast things that I got into. I was just led to it.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like if there were sounds to that, like, as you would be walking into the store, you would sound like the janitor with the big set of keys from all of the different healing that you have trained in and on some of the classes we even sat in together. Like I believe you, I were in Lovey's integrated energy therapy session learning those. So it is because of you that like I have seen the goodness and the effectiveness of pranic that that is on my list. Like it's high up there to go learn to do myself.
I just need them to get closer than California currently so I can go learn in, in this.
But you know, I myself have had Reiki many years of the level 3 and 4 of the Pakkakuna tradition, integrated energy therapy.
Gosh, now my brain's going like, like some of the other ones. But like I think between the two of us there's like nine or ten that you know, that we, that we use. I find like I don't use one more over the other. Like there's always like kind of a combination and it kind of dep on the clients of deciding what is best for that of what they need at that time. And I think you've mentioned that you're kind of the same way that depending on what I asks when you're in that private room, you know, they're like I need help with and spirit just kind of says do this now do this and then do this. And guys, while we're talking, feel free to ask questions. So tonight we're going to kind of keep it open for general thanks. Hey Divine.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: With all those forms of healing, how do you know where to start? And I think we were kind of starting to answer that before. I'm like, ooh, tell them to ask questions. So like Maria, how do you like line out when you have that client come in of how you're going to go approaching?
[00:04:53] Speaker B: I usually since I was trained to feel the person's energy field and I 9 out of 10 times I usually hit it on target. If I know that there are more like connected to the earth then I would take the shaman. If they're more.
They pretty much are energy wise. They need, they need the energy they need. They need some kind of sweeping and panic healing. The difference between panic and I get asked this a lot. The difference between panic healing and Reiki. They're both energy, they're both work okay.
But chronic healing, we go one step ahead by sweeping and preparing the energy field. Because the belief in pranic healing is closer to the body. We have like several different layers in our energy energy field. But the, the last three closer to the body is what we pinpoint on. So it's the outer, the health and the inner and then the body. And then in the body, we go into the chakras. And there's not only seven. We work with 12. And there's not only 12. There's a lot more chakras. We have your minor, you have your meridians, all of that. So I pretty much, I have to, I have to be present and sense the person.
I, and they're talking to me. And as I'm talking to them, I'm also picking up another energy field. And, and then I do ask them a question. I said, you, like, I go, you feel so at ease going to Mother Nature, whether it's a Met park, whether it's your backyard.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: And then I know it's a shaman that I have to pull up if they have no idea what they need. And they start, they start telling me what is going on with them. And that is great because that's good information for me. I actually scan you. I scan you. And when I was trained, I feel energy in my hands. I feel energy all over the person. But I also start scanning with my eyes because that's how I was trained in the Silva. I was trained to scan with my eyes. So that's how I read the person first.
I hope that helps you with your question.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: You know, sometimes, which I don't do a whole lot of public healing because I'm usually busy with the store, right. But I'll, I'll do certain, certain ones that, you know, they're like, I need you. And I'm like, clearly, if Spirit kept telling you to come track me down. Right?
And I do a lot of my work for military members and cancer survivors and cancer patients.
But, but a lot of the times knowing, like, oh, I have, you know, Lady Jane later today at 6:30, like, I am already kind of tuning into her throughout the day of like, what needs to, to happen? What do we need to do? What are we working on? And so no healing session is ever the same because sometimes I'm like, oh, we need the massage table. I'm gonna knock you out, you know, energetically. And, you know, there might be stones. There might be different things going on.
So I, I, I feel like it would be hard for me to teach a, here's how you do this. Because it changes every time that I've done a healing because it depends on the person.
But, you know, I'm kind of tapping into them before they're even in the door. So I feel like I'm prepared before they even get in. Of, like, here's what we need to do. So I have that room ready. I have the tools ready. And, you know, I will still ask, like, what are we, you know, addressing today? That, you know, because then you. There's like, what the client is aware of, and then there's kind of like that subconscious and what their higher self is like. Like, there's this. But here's some more of that underlying root problem that they're not either aware of or they're afraid to say out loud.
So, you know, that. That's kind of how I get started with it. And, you know, it's worked well for me. You know, I. I feel like it's never steered me wrong that way.
And that being said, little note or side note for me, like, if I make you cry, then I know we've done good work. Like, we've got to it, you know, because that release that happens.
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Yes, yes, for me is crying and coughing.
Because coughing is another way of purging you getting. And. And sometimes some of the clients, oh, I don't want to cough in the room because of. I go, no, because I will clear it. I will completely clear the room for the next person to come in.
Everything that I do, before I even start, I actually center myself to the source, you know, which is to me is divine. I call him divine. Some people might call him God, some people may call him great Spirit, some people may call him Universe. But I just center myself and I have this connection.
So that also, like Melissa was saying it, you know, she has she already tuned in. Sometimes I may not have the opportunity to tune into that person.
I do look up my appointments. If it's a second Saturday or third Saturday, I do look at my appointments, and I tune into their name. I look at their name, I tune into it, and I have an idea.
But it also is great when a person interact with you and tell you basically where they're coming from. But I've already tuned into that person, and it does help that way.
I think a lot of healers do different ways to prepare, and it's really hard when it's in the psychic fair scenario because it's anyone who comes in. So that's when I use that ability to tune into their energy field and have the conversation with their higher self and what's going on there.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Erin has a question of what about body temperature changes when you're working on someone.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: No.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: I get that. That's another thing I. I think that. That I work for. And sometimes it may not even be them necessarily. Sometimes I will change like My body temperature will fluctuate depending on the amount of work going on. But, Maria, you started to answer, and then we laughed and I cut you off.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: So that's okay. I. My. My body temperature, I get really. I. I generate a lot of energy, so I get really hot.
And I also. That happens with me also when I'm doing my meditation. I get very, very. I start generating. And then once when I notice my body is generating, I know that I'm. I'm just pulling in a lot of energy. And I am not. I'm just. It's not just from Mother Earth or the, you know, up above is all over my surroundings. I'm pulling it all in.
So I get really heated because, you know, sometimes.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: And as she says that there's. There's healing that can happen in spaces too, so not just people.
And so, you know, working in a retail space, you have people coming and going all the time. And depending on what's going on, you know, you gotta. You kind of clear that space, heal that space or that person.
Because one of the great things about the Peruvian shamanism that we're both trained in is there's this fun little catch where we do not need to ask permission to do healing work depending on your action and behavior. And I know there's so many, like, you have to have permission or you're impeding free will. Here's the. Here's the difference.
And this is what applies to the store. If somebody's coming in and they're already, like, emotionally upset about something, they just got yelled at, or they're almost had a car wreck, or they're agitated, right? And either way, they're spilling that emotion out. Be it they're verbally dumping it or they're just pacing, they are taking that uncomfortableness that they're feeling and they're spreading it. So now you've kind of given permission because you're sharing it out there.
And, you know, so that's when I'm like, well, we need to keep the store, you know, in a comfortable spot. So, you know, that's when it's like, okay, let's go dump this out. Let's go take care of this. Let's go address that person. And while standing there is when, you know, I can kind of like reach in there, take that anxiety down, take that, you know, whatever is making them, like, just agitated. And just like, okay, let's calm down some.
But because they did not ask permission before, they're like, let me dump my trauma on you guys. As I Come into a public spot, then I don't need that permission to keep everybody else comfortable. Right? Yeah. So. And sometimes in doing that, you know, like, it's here. She's like, oh, I might turn red. Because that's. That's a physical change that I'm doing within me. In our tradition, like, I am pulling that in transmuting and, like, sending out either neutral or positive. So that is happening in me while taking that off.
So that. That's where that can come from. And I know, like, my temperature will change depending on if it's my physical body kind of doing that work, or if part of me is stepping aside and letting, like, spirit and energy come in, then I find that I will get colder than. Than. Rather than getting warmer.
Divine says that happened at a pagan festival. Right. So, you know, that that was one of the things we. We learned. We had, like, different degrees of homework for that learning heal that. And it was like a stranger, a person, you know, than your greatest enemy. And the example that our teacher gave us for the person you didn't know is like, go to the grocery store.
Go get the longest line, and look for the person that's like, you know, and like, geez Louise, how long, you know, can they go any slower? That's the person, you know, that you do this work on.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: And that was refreshing because you. When I did that, I. I picked this, like, there were several people online, but I. I decided to pick on the one that was mostly agitated.
And when I did that, I saw the difference happen in front of me. I saw the trans. I was like, wow, this is cool that maybe this should be a job, that I could just stand in line and help all these people so the cashiers will not get agitated, you know, trying to get these people through the line and whatnot.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you're helping everybody by taking care of that one person because they're just making.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: They're spreading misery. And misery does not. The company does not love the misery. So Joshua asks, what healing would you recommend for someone who feels like their energies are blocked, locked up, and having trouble opening them back up? For me, it feels like my body feels more restricted and stiff.
[00:16:24] Speaker B: In pranic healing, I was taught that everybody has a. A certain ratio under chakras, how they spinning, and they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. When it starts to slow down, that means the body has taken too many stale or. Or has not really released some of these stale energy. Negative energy, if you want to call it. And so it's not locked, it's not blocked. It's just going on a slower spin to start. Get rid of getting rid of it. That if you can, if you know any of these modalities, even in Reiki, if you know how to do Reiki on yourself, that will be helpful because you are helping your body dispel some of that negative style energy. If that does not work, if you don't have that training, then the quickest thing for me, I would say, is meditation.
If you meditate and you get yourself in that center, it's going to start to release some of that and then you're going to. And when you're meditating, understand the energy is being released, but also divine energy is coming into your body. Once you meditate, you're going to start to calm down a little bit. You're going to start feeling like, oh, that's great, you know. Or if that doesn't work, you can just take a, just take a walk in your backyard, go hug a tree.
That is just so great. I mean, you hug a tree, stay there for about 10, 15 minutes, or put your back by the tree. Mother Nature is so. There's so many healing energies around it. And that was the one thing that I loved about our shaman class because we went out into nature, we went out into the heights, and it just felt so like, oh, I'm getting rid of all the stuff. Great, you know, you know, you could.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: I agree with the meditation. I would only add to it.
And Joshua, I don't know if this makes sense to you, but like, I call them like the active meditations. And I don't know if that's what they're generally called across the board. But you can do things like when you're outside and if you are somebody that you go into a lake or moving water, it's like picture where you feel that block at wherever that may be. And it doesn't always have to be in a chakra center. Maybe you feel like it's in my left shoulder for some reason. Don't overthink it. Like, here it is. And then like if you're in moving water, like allow that water to wash over and wash it away and allowing that release. And if you find yourself for whatever reason going, but not why, and let it go. So when you ask that why, there is your reason why. That's, that's hanging there for some reason and allow that go.
Right now, probably nobody wants to go jump into moving water outside, especially if you're in Ohio. So, you know In a shower, let it go. If you're a runner or walker, like, stomp it out. Literally. Like, every time your foot hits the pavement, you are shaking free. A little more of those blockages and let them go.
Because I myself have a hard time sitting still and meditating. My mind will wander like nobody's business. And then I'm not really meditating anymore. But if I'm in movement, I'm keeping part of that brain occupied that I can then kind of be like, what. What is coming through? And then that. That's when it happens for me.
Now, if it were like a private healing session, we had, like, a flowering that we learned to where it's kind of like opening up and flowering you into your abilities and kind of working through those blocks, wherever they may be, and opening up to where they are now. They don't come crashing in. Like, you don't go from like a one to a 20. It's just an opening. And as you start working through there, they start getting more stronger. You may learn, like, oh, I thought I was only, you know, clairaudient, but now I have some clairvoyance that I didn't even realize that that's what that was.
So. But there's a number of ways. But I agree with meditation.
I just like the physical.
Everyone works for you.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Well, a lot of people, when they think about meditation, they're thinking about sitting down, going. And that's not what meditation is. Is anything that you are aware of in the moment. And what I think what Melissa is talking about is the mindful meditation. You are aware of where you are in nature, and you're also aware of your body, where the pain is. You know, there is another way. You know that you can also do this. You don't. It's like I said. Yeah. Melissa said is we're not going to jump in the lake at this time of the year. But in a bathtub, you can fill up the bathtub with lukewarm water and take a handful, a handful of salt, throw it in the bathtub.
You can take lavender oil and put nine drops of lavender oil in the bathtub.
If you are, for some reason, allergic to lavender, there are some people who are. Take some amethyst stones and throw it in there. Some tumblers, something, you know, and just throw it in there and stay in that bathtub no more than 20 minutes. After the 20 minutes, take. Take one of those timers in there. After the 20 minutes, get out of the bathtub, let the water drain.
Then you can shower off and you're gonna feel such a release because it's like, oh my gosh, that was great. And it's a way of mimicking. Instead of jumping into the lake, you could do it.
You can do it in the bathtub and get rid of all this stuff.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Polar plunges.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: But that will wake up your senses though, the polar plunge.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Oh, that's what coffee's for.
I'm not jumping in anything cold.
There's my block. I'm not getting cold now. Call me over on Twitch. She's like, I like to go out and have a quick screen. There's actually a lot of therapy be done.
And let me tell you, like, I have thought about opening a side business, a rage room, right.
Go gather up a bunch of stuff from a. A thrift store. And like you pay X amount of dollars to go in here with a baseball bat, a golf club, whatever, and just go break stuff, you know, and get that anger, that release, that frustration out and then like that calmness that comes. Right.
I'm sorry. Like a punching bag will do something. But there's just something therapeutic about bringing something sometimes. Right.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Well, I like her screaming because it actually is funny. In Hawaii, I was taught this when I was growing up. You go into the beach, close to the water, like the shore end, you dig a hole, scream everything in there, cover it up and walk away and don't look back. And that's what, that's how I was taught when I was going up in Hawaii.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: You know, I'm like, I think that. What was it? Office space? They were onto something when they took that printer out back and just beat the heck out of it.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that was great. A lot of frustration and stress out. Yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: When do we break ground? Right?
But yeah, that's.
I think there's something with the physical in helping in that, that meditation just to releasing. Just pent up whatever it might be.
So you can think clearly. In theory, like the body is relaxed then to allow that. That information to come in, those abilities to come in.
But that was a great question.
Yeah, but feel free, guys. Ask questions. Comments.
Now, we kind of talked about already a little bit between, you know, having to ask permission and when you don't have to, between the healing modalities.
And it's funny because they each all have kind of like their own little sets of what you cans and cans do. Though I will say the Peruvian shamanism, there's a lot less of what you can't do. But it is also very nature connected and asking not only the nature of that person but literal nature around of what you, you can and can't do.
And it's, it's not even like, why am I not allowed? It's just like, hey, do they need this? And it's a no.
Should we do this? No. And then if you, if you're tuned in to listen well enough, you'll hear a no, but or do instead.
Now, in your traditions period, do you have any conflicting between any certain modalities of what you can and can't do or like the rules, if you will?
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Well, in chronic healing, we are, we. We don't want to impose into a person's free will and whether they're. So usually if a client books an appointment with me, I know that they are okay with this. But I have come across instances where a client knows a friend that is in a hospital and it could be in a coma. And I haven't had this come up to me several times.
And so therefore I can, I cannot go and ask a client because they're in a coma or they may be recovering from a post surgery. I can't go and ask them. Or I said put them on the phone and let me ask them if I can do this.
I go directly, directly to their higher self.
Now, they have been times that I am giving a frank no.
And usually it's during the time when a person has, when the person is in the middle of transition or making a decision to go on transition.
I. And it's not, it's not my free will I'm going to be imposing on. It's going to be their free will I'm going to be imposing on. If they have not made a decision whether they want to stay or. Or go. I cannot make. Do the healing and make them stay in a body or in experience that they are not don't want anymore or not ready for anymore.
So it is the permission of the higher self that I have to ask.
If it's a, if it's a child I have, if, if a parent books an appointment for the child for me, then I'm okay with that. But if it's, if it's a parent that doesn't know and some friend or family member wants to said no, you have to talk to the parent. It's a minor.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: It's like the DNR of healing, right?
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: We both kind of had that recently because a mutual friend of ours passed away.
And you know Maria, when you tapped in, she was like, yeah, you know, so. Which so sucked. But it is what it is.
You Know, and it's funny because now, just a little side note, like, not long after she passed, I kept seeing this little book that it says, like, it's your problem now because I'm dead. And it's like a death planner. And I'm like, haha, funny.
And Sierra, just recently, she's like, look. And I'm like, I know. And I immediately yelled at her from across time and space.
You know, healing, healing people without the permission. And then usually you'll hear that when you kind of tap in, like, and most parents, right, they mean well. And if they're asking for healing for their kid, they mean well. And it's from a business.
Now if you've got somebody who's like, oh, my high school best friend that I haven't talked to in five years, I saw on Facebook that, you know, they're in the hospital, that's, that's kind of what I'm like, now you care why?
My distrust of humanity sometimes comes in and I'm like, why?
Why?
But, but yeah, like, so do you have a favorite in your modalities that you like using more than others?
[00:29:25] Speaker B: Pranic healing has always been my go to and to. To. To give a summary of what it is. Because, you know, people say, what is energy healing? Is it like Reiki? And I said, kind of, sort of, but not really.
So I used.
The easiest way to explain is that when you mop your floor, do you sweep it first or do you just mop it and you say, well, you sweep it first. I go, that's exactly what I do in panic healing. I go in, I scan you, and then I sweep you first.
So to me that makes so much sense.
I. There's, I mean, I pick and choose my modality. Sometimes I combine them. You know, if I do a distant healing, I will start off with panic healing. I may end with a shaman healing, or I may, I may just do the Reiki location healing. And then I go straight to the person with panic. And then I go straight finishing up with a shaman. And so it's just basically being in tune with spirit. And my prag healing has a protocol. But when my teacher taught us, he got, you know, he go, this is a guideline. That's all it is. You may take out some, you may put. He goes, you need to pay attention to what you're picking up. And so even though there is a guideline for panic healing, I may not follow it. I experience it. Go here, go here, do this, do this, spend more time here. So that's how I do it. And especially I love distant because the person is completely, like, open. I was like, oh, this is cool.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I haven't used the integrated energy therapy as much in the last couple years because, let's face it, it can be time consuming to set up to do. Right. But I find at least when you get the whole table out the chair and everything, you know, you can do some quick chair stuff with it. And that's probably what I would fall under more. But I find that it would be more of the. The shamanic work and then just listening in.
Like, if I. If I felt like stones need to be incorporated for something, either for removal or to just boost the energy of the room for the healing, which I'm like, oh, how funny. I was doing that before, you know, Zayn ever came into my life to taught me stuff, you know, And I'm like, oh, okay. You know, it's. It's like they all get kind of combined, you know, in a way. So I don't know if I would have one more favored or one that I use more than the other other than maybe now after the years of the shamanic healing, just because of that energy pulling and. And listening and, you know, sending off.
But I don't know if I would have a favorite favorite because I think they're all different in a way, and they all have their place and purpose.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: I have had clients that. Because this is answering divine. So have you ever had to turn someone away as a healer? I had. Have clients. And I know that after you have seen me, you know, more than seven times, it's not working. So maybe that healing, my healing modality is not meshing with you. So then I would recommend another healer that I know of. You know, the whole entire thing is that he. I'm in. In the. And I know in goddess lead, I don't know about the others in the whole. In our community, we do recommend each other. You know, if we. For some reason their energy is not. Their frequency is not matching up with me, then, okay, go and see so and so, you know, you may be able. They may. They may work wonders for you. After someone had come to me seven times in less than six months, you need to go someone else.
Yeah.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: Because clearly something's not meshing.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: It's not meshing. It's not connecting, you know.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
I do love the integrity that we carry, that we're not gonna just keep taking money and, you know, just for that client, it's like, this isn't working. Go Here. Or, you know what? We're not meshing. Be it for readings, like, here's your money back.
You know, we're not jiving. Like, we don't do that.
So. And I think that was one of. One of the first things. Maybe about halfway through that, our shaman teacher was like, you know, you are not the shaman for every person on this planet.
And knowing that and keeping yourself in check, because it's all about the client, not your ego.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: So.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: And, you know, and for me, I liked that. I. I liked that whole burden not being placed, you know, that, gee, I don't have to heal every single person that's standing in front of me dumping their trauma. Now, I will say there are times where I feel like universe is like, you are today's free therapist.
And so, you know, I go out for a show like I did this weekend, and I swear, like, all day Saturday was like, everybody at the fairgrounds was just coming and crying and dumping crying, and I'm like, oh, good Lord. Like, that's why I'm really here today. Okay. You may not be the shaman for some. For everyone, but there are days sometimes where I feel like the universe is like, you know what? You've been slacking on your office hours, so here's a bunch all in one day. They're just going to tell you their stories without you even asking, and you get to clear that space and clear them off of that burden. And there you go. And I'm like, got it. Okay.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Got those days, too, in the store. Got those days also. But I don't mind it because I know that they were for, like, there have been times that I have popped up in the store. I'm not even. It's not my day to be there. I popped up there. Next thing I know, I'm talking to clients, and, you know, I'm going, okay, this is the reason why I came here.
And so those days are the.
Actually, those are the most rewarding days for me because I knew that I was planted there at that time, at that particular space with that person.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: But there's also.
Yeah, And. But there's also a time that you think, okay, like, Melissa said that, you know, for the third time, you, let's move on, you know, or, why don't we pick this up when I'm not cold and I'm in my car and I'm in. In a store.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, and then when he was like, I'll see you again, because I'm here every day and I'm Here. And I'm like, how about when it's warmer?
Converse for an hour. I don't care now. And here's a question for you, Maria. So as I have gotten into doing more and more of the energy work, like, knowing that it's happening and training and getting into that and feeling. I won't say that I'm more of an interviewer, but I find that I am less likely to be like, oh, concert, lots of people, loud music. You know, I find that I'm more like, I don't need that. So have you noticed if you, like, as you've grown in your healing work, if you're kind of like, I don't need those crowded places.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny because.
And one year, my son talked me into going to Black Friday, and I was like, okay. You know, I mean, because usually I was like, okay, you know, but that particular Black Friday, I got so ill because there were so many people. I was picking up energy everywhere. You know, no matter where I go, I'm picking up energy. And from then on, I said, I don't need that. I don't need to go out back Friday shopping. I don't need to go in the middle, you know, in the weekend and shop. I like to go when it's nice and less people.
Yeah. I found that when I got into the healing work.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. I'm like, is it just me? I'm like, is there undiagnosed this? I'm like, no. Actually, that kind of grew as I took on more stuff because you are more aware of it.
And I found like, that empathy grew more.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: You know, and. And I find, like, my challenges right now is. Is like grief. Right. Even before our friend died, like, if I am somewhere that there is active grieving, crying, like that rushes in faster than I can be. Like, I don't need that right now. And it's like, I am now part of. And I'm like, that is something for me to work on. And it is still a challenge for me to work on because I feel like at times like I would like to maybe get into death doula. Right. And working with that. But I'm like, I have this grief feeling under control and how to work with it more effectively and proactively for whoever a client might be before I can, you know, step into that.
But it's. It's funny. And like, I find now that I have harder time sleeping on full and new moons ever since the shaman program and.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Yep, yep. I always had that.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: Not a Problem till now.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Yep, I have that problem.
I started having the problem a week before the new moon, a week before the. And a week after.
But a week after is not so bad because it is already starting to get, you know, and I was like, okay, I'm starting to feel myself. But.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Yes, but yeah, because I feel like the being in the healer world, like, you're always learning. You're always. Be it about yourself, new modalities, how it works for you, the people around you. I, you know, if I personally. And you can correct me if I'm wrong, Maria, but if. If somebody says that they are the healer of all things and they know all the healing and they know all the. Like, I. I call.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: I do too. Because if you know everything, why are you not in the pedestal of the enlightened Buddha? Why you're not in the pedestal of raising someone from the dead. I'm sorry, but why are you not in that pedestal? I think a healer is very proficient when they're always learning. And I'm always learning, and I am thankful that I'm always learning. You know, whether it's a new meditation or a book that catches my eye, I say, oh, or maybe a workshop. I have been doing a lot of mini workshops lately.
And, you know, yeah, you're going to be a guinea pig for me, Melissa, soon.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: I mean, I don't have my guinea pig anymore, you know.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: You hear that, Sandy? You better show up wherever you're at.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: So, yeah, I. If a healer, if you always a healer will never learn everything. A healer will never know everything. Or, or, you know, if. If that was the case, yes, you could.
A minute. You can just heal someone in instant.
I would love to get to that place. I would love to be able to get through there. But I also, I know that I am human. And I. And the way I was conditioned and raised, which is a lot of crap that you saw, you had when you're in the healing. When you're in the healing path and you're going to start looking at things that happen in your childhood, whether from your family, friends, teachers. Oh, that's. Oh, that's so, you know, because you got to get to your place where. Okay, okay. This, I can deal with. This I believe in. This makes kind of sense to me. But this is. This is so I, I got to that place where I started cleaning up a lot of things, you know, and you always learning. It's. It's. To the day that I take my last breath in this world. I will always be learning And I know that, and that's wonderful.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:04] Speaker A: Catching up on. On some comments here. If you get to the point where you know it all and don't continue to grow, you just made yourself dangerous to others. I agree.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: I agree.
Larry's like, we know everything when we cross over. And I can't tell you how true that is. Only like my favorite weekend in our shaman training is the death rites weekend.
Best vacation because you're literally out of your body and you're sent.
And in that instance of being back as part of the source, I understood so many quantum physic things and understood. And then at that same time it got boring because you knew there was nothing new to experience. You were there. And then at the same time, because I'm a smart ass, I'm like, really? That's why I'm down on this earth doing this right now.
Really? I couldn't find another place to go have fun. I'm doing this.
Kind of mad at myself right now for choosing this one, but okay, but you know, you did and oh my God, if I would have had pen and paper in that first 30 seconds of coming back to try and scribble that all down.
But after about five minutes, I'm like, I couldn't even remember the beginning thoughts because they were gone.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: Right. I trolled myself.
Thanks for joining us, guys. We hope you'll join us next Tuesday at 7pM and we're going to talk on manifesting with some energy work.
